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#57 of 3321 street racing by uncle_scr00ge Apr 22, 2001 (12:47 am)
i guess you're right in that having an si will brand a certain stereotype on you. don't get me wrong, i'm down with people who enjoy their car and like to modify/enhance it. i don't see the difference between someone who overclock his computer with someone else who turbo charge his car. they're both utilities and the owner should be able to do whatever he wants to with it without other people giving him crap. with that said, however, i can't help it but notice an increasingly trend of hod rodders acting like hoodlums and punks. i don't think it's that bad to accelerate fast once that green light hits and see what your car can do but it's unnecessary to try and run down everyone on the road to prove you got the best car. it's not like there is a law that states you can't act with class while driving one of these cars. while i believe these people comprise of only a small percentage of all hot rodders, it still pisses me off because they give the rest of us who enjoy these cars and conduct ourselves professionally a bad name.
#58 of 3321 wishbone by pere_ubu Apr 22, 2001 (1:55 am)
Agreed that replacing the wishbone up front with MacStruts is no big loss unless you're heavily into tuning your car. After finally getting a chance to drive some previous generation Civics that did have the front dbl wish, I can now say that my '01 Civic coupe EX - with dbl wish in the back and struts up front - handles just as well, if not better. Looks like Honda/Accord thinks the same, b/c the Acura RSX (based, actually, on the '01 Civic coupe) is also going to have MacStruts up front with double wish in the rear, just with firmer stock-tuning.   I also see a lot of people throwing HP and torque numbers around as if Honda is cheating it's customers out of much-sought-after speed. You have to figure in the weight of the car when talking about speed, and how responsive the tranny is mated to the engine before you can jump to conclusions about which car is faster based just on the numbers. I mean, my EX is listed as 127 max HP, and only 117 lb/ft of torque, and it STILL accelerates only a tad bit less than my friend's Audi A4. And I've got an automatic...!   Still though, couldn't Honda have come up with a more unique design than "Focus ZX3, part deux"?
#59 of 3321 My prediction... by isellhondas Apr 22, 2001 (11:17 am)
Some will like it and some won't.   I will hear things like..." You would think Honda would have...." " I don't like the shifter, colors offered, etc etc etc.   And...they will be impossible to keep in stock!
#60 of 3321 RE: street racing by sarahvtec Apr 22, 2001 (12:39 pm)
Very True! Now that Honda's are the NEW hot rods of the 90's and now into the next century there is a certain stereotype that goes along with it. Just owning a Honda these days automatically gives you a free membership - whether you want it or not. I too see a growing number of hoodlums and punks ruining the import scene but what can you do? Also, it doesn't help when the film industry compounds the problem. From the few clips I've seen of the upcoming movie, "The fast and the furious" it would lead anyone to believe the stereotypes are true. Leave it up to a few people to ruin for the rest of us. By the way, I liked your analogy with overclocking your computer with car customizing.
#61 of 3321 Coupe versus Hatchback by bill_1 Apr 23, 2001 (8:37 am)
The thing is that the Coupe version of the SI was the exception. In the previous generations the SI was the hatchback version (and the CRX and Del Sol). The hatchback is a bit lighter than the sedan version so it will also be a bit peppier and handle a bit better.
#62 of 3321 Very good post pere_ubu by sobers Apr 23, 2001 (9:49 am)
I agree that even Si is rated 160 & SVT as 170 SI would be faster & more responsive just bcos of better mated xmission. Fuel Economy of SVT will be a BIG JOKE. Si will have a very good fule economy. Simple question is if you are going to spend same money for SVT vs SI which one would you get ? Assuming both have the same performance (which is not the case, Si wil be better), my money would go to Si due to reliability/economy & overall value over many years. AND I would have to take it in 5 times in 6 months due to funny recalls.
#63 of 3321 Manual Xmission by sobers Apr 23, 2001 (9:53 am)
Hpw SVT is going to match the BEST manual xmission maker of the world i.e. Honda ??   The diff between Fort Manual & Honda manual will be interesting !! -   Now only of Honda gives better overdrive gear for comfortable crusing (which is possible with 2 litre engine) I guess revvs for 5th gear would be very low. Also SVT engine is not going to be revv-happy as si's. Honda is THE MASTER (with BMW/Frerrari) of highrev machines parts.   I hear that Si's engine is down-tuned version of S2000 ? I guess that leaves a very HIGH room for engine modfification of the order of 90-100 hp !!
#64 of 3321 power and manual tranny by qbrozen Apr 23, 2001 (12:20 pm)
The SVT is going to have one more gear than the Si (the Si is a 5-spd, correct?). So i think the Ford 6-spd is going to help the performance a great deal. I'm pretty sure its going to be faster in a straight line than the Si, corners is a different story.   Talking about tuned down, Ford took that same SVT engine and made 304 horsepower!!   I'm not saying either one is better than the other. Just pointing out a couple of facts.
#65 of 3321 304 hp by ejonavin Apr 23, 2001 (8:55 pm)
How much can you get out of the S2000 if you turbo it?

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