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#52 of 3321 where's the 2002 si coupe? by uncle_scr00ge Apr 21, 2001 (2:22 am)
my 99 si got stolen. since there is no such thing as a 2001 si in the us, i got the 2001 subaru rs couple to replace it. when i saw the link for 2002 si, i got excited. i would be more than willing to trade in my rs and get an si. HOWEVER, WTF IS THAT? it's butt ugly. I WANT TO BUY A HONDA, yet they're driving me away with this crap. the hatchback looks hopeless and there is no coupe. i think honda is resting on its laurel right now and competitors are coming out of the woods. maybe i should just wait another 20 years(if i live that long) and get the honda civic si hovercraft with turbo booster and optional mounted twin laser cannons
#53 of 3321 RE: uncle_scr00ge by sarahvtec Apr 21, 2001 (10:49 am)
Trust me, "I feel your pain". I am a coupe lover as well. Although, I would be willing to to buy a hatchback if and only if, it was a 2002 Civic Type R (Geneva Auto-Show). You see, they have always been hacthbacks so I could make the compromise for the additional HP, stiffer suspension, racing seats, aero kit, etc. You bring up a good point about the hatchback looking but ugly. I agree! It appears Honda has relinquised their design team to the Europeans. That's why all 2001+ Honda's look like VW's. Just look at the rear mounted antenna. If that's not European influence I dunno what is. Even Honda of Japan's website makes mention of this. Their new slogan is, "We can change - new monoform design". In fact, they don't have many coupes for they are considered girly cars everywhere except in America - go figure. Thus, no coupe Si for 2002. Sedans and hatchbacks are all the rave overseas. So if you dislike the 3DR hatchback then stay away from the 5DR version! Why didn't you buy a WRX? Hovercraft with turbo booster and optional mounted twin laser cannons huh...I can't wait!!! *haha*
#54 of 3321 sarahvtec by uncle_scr00ge Apr 21, 2001 (12:55 pm)
the reason why i didn't buy the wrx is the same reason why i won't buy the 2002 si, they're both ugly. i test drove it and like it, but the only thing it has over the 2001 rs is the horsepower and torque. the 2001 rs looks great and if you take the leather seat package, the cheap interior feeling goes away instantly. i'm not much into racing and i don't care for "my car can go 0-60 in .0005 less seconds than your car can" stuff. fun to drive + comfort = uncle scrooge taking out wallet. i got the 99 si because it's fun to drive, not because it can accelerate fast in straight line. a few months ago before my si was stolen, some dumbass in another si pulled up to the other lane and wanted to race me. i was looking at this moron wondering what is trying to prove, his si is faster than my si?
#56 of 3321 RE: uncle_scr00ge by sarahvtec Apr 21, 2001 (11:19 pm)
Once again, I agree! The redesign of the Subaru's are just as bad as the Honda's. I thought 2000 was going to usher in some awesome looking cars. Oh well, maybe they'll learn but I somehow doubt it. As far as not buying the WRX, you're a stronger person than I - the WRX would have been my only choice. Ugly as it is they finally brought a top of the line car from Japan! No more wishing an RS was a WRX. The same can be said when they brought the Integra Type R to the states. Now they need to import the Mitsubishi Evolution Lancer and Nissan Sylvia! Yeah baby! Sorry to hear about your Si. I also own a 1999 Si but have been very lucky only to get an emblem stolen (if you call that lucky). It sucks but what can you do. Can only protect your car so much. In any case, I'd definitely get rid of it if Honda brought the Civic Type R. Until then, I'll continuing customizing my Si to be the baddest "H" car around. Regarding the street racers, ladychaos is right for I too get fools always wanting to race me. Sometimes I oblige but never to the point where it's going to endanger myself or the public.
#57 of 3321 street racing by uncle_scr00ge Apr 21, 2001 (11:47 pm)
i guess you're right in that having an si will brand a certain stereotype on you. don't get me wrong, i'm down with people who enjoy their car and like to modify/enhance it. i don't see the difference between someone who overclock his computer with someone else who turbo charge his car. they're both utilities and the owner should be able to do whatever he wants to with it without other people giving him crap. with that said, however, i can't help it but notice an increasingly trend of hod rodders acting like hoodlums and punks. i don't think it's that bad to accelerate fast once that green light hits and see what your car can do but it's unnecessary to try and run down everyone on the road to prove you got the best car. it's not like there is a law that states you can't act with class while driving one of these cars. while i believe these people comprise of only a small percentage of all hot rodders, it still pisses me off because they give the rest of us who enjoy these cars and conduct ourselves professionally a bad name.
#58 of 3321 wishbone by pere_ubu Apr 22, 2001 (12:55 am)
Agreed that replacing the wishbone up front with MacStruts is no big loss unless you're heavily into tuning your car. After finally getting a chance to drive some previous generation Civics that did have the front dbl wish, I can now say that my '01 Civic coupe EX - with dbl wish in the back and struts up front - handles just as well, if not better. Looks like Honda/Accord thinks the same, b/c the Acura RSX (based, actually, on the '01 Civic coupe) is also going to have MacStruts up front with double wish in the rear, just with firmer stock-tuning.   I also see a lot of people throwing HP and torque numbers around as if Honda is cheating it's customers out of much-sought-after speed. You have to figure in the weight of the car when talking about speed, and how responsive the tranny is mated to the engine before you can jump to conclusions about which car is faster based just on the numbers. I mean, my EX is listed as 127 max HP, and only 117 lb/ft of torque, and it STILL accelerates only a tad bit less than my friend's Audi A4. And I've got an automatic...!   Still though, couldn't Honda have come up with a more unique design than "Focus ZX3, part deux"?
#59 of 3321 My prediction... by isellhondas Apr 22, 2001 (10:17 am)
Some will like it and some won't.   I will hear things like..." You would think Honda would have...." " I don't like the shifter, colors offered, etc etc etc.   And...they will be impossible to keep in stock!
#60 of 3321 RE: street racing by sarahvtec Apr 22, 2001 (11:39 am)
Very True! Now that Honda's are the NEW hot rods of the 90's and now into the next century there is a certain stereotype that goes along with it. Just owning a Honda these days automatically gives you a free membership - whether you want it or not. I too see a growing number of hoodlums and punks ruining the import scene but what can you do? Also, it doesn't help when the film industry compounds the problem. From the few clips I've seen of the upcoming movie, "The fast and the furious" it would lead anyone to believe the stereotypes are true. Leave it up to a few people to ruin for the rest of us. By the way, I liked your analogy with overclocking your computer with car customizing.

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