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#31 of 3321 '92 and '02 Civic by civic_cx_92 Apr 17, 2001 (1:27 pm)
I see family resemblence...   no unnecessary creases on the body side, smooth fenders, elongated roofline, rear reflectors on the body, and roof tapering to the rear.   CX
#34 of 3321 How much by wordman93 Apr 17, 2001 (6:20 pm)
torque will this thing have? I doubt that it will be one of the fastest cars for around 18k if that's what the price will be. Especially with VW upping the power on their 1.8t models. Why didn't Honda throw in a few more ponies?   I can only see the picture of the Focus! WUZ UP WIT DAT!?
#35 of 3321 We can all blame Acura for this... by bill_1 Apr 18, 2001 (5:49 am)
The most unfortunate thing about the Honda Si is the Acura RSX. Honda wants to make sure that the RSX Type-S is a better performer than the Civic in the American Market, as a result the Civic only gets the RSX base engine and a 5 speed manual. Still the new Si should have considerably more torque than the last Si and so should be able to out perform it. In addition it will have Antilock breaks. Still with all the competition in the pocket rocket segment, Honda may have to improve the car substantially if it wants to gain any visiblity in a tight market...
#36 of 3321 good pics, but by qbrozen Apr 18, 2001 (7:02 am)
OK. I have to say I see both now. The nose is definitely from a Focus. The windows and roofline are very much like the Civic you show.   But, one point to your comments, there ARE creases on the body sides (refer to the 3rd pic in this discussion if you can't tell by the reflection in the pic you posted).   I gotta admit, though, that profile shot does make it seem a bit more attractive. That is, until I see the front, then I'm irked all over again.
#37 of 3321 Si price by mdriver Apr 18, 2001 (7:12 am)
The price should be higher than $18k, since the 2000 Si was that and had no ABS or side air bags. Honda doesn't give something away without a price increase. I suspect it will be closer to $20k. That's pretty close to a Golf GTI which has more useable torque and side curtains.
#38 of 3321 wishbones by sunilb Apr 18, 2001 (1:02 pm)
the problem with Honda getting rid of the double wishbones, is that their cars are FWD.... and this is the same reason why BMW can have macpherson struts up front: their cars are RWD, thereby reducing the pressure on the front wheels to steer as well as power the car. So, I still think the lack of 'bones on their civics is a cost move.
#39 of 3321 reply to wishbones by civic_cx_92 Apr 18, 2001 (1:23 pm)
I predict the 2006 civics will come with torson bar front and trailing beam rear suspension.   why? because in 1984, the McPherson struts were removed to maximize the interior space and lower the front end on civics.   CX
#40 of 3321 by rmtrader Apr 18, 2001 (8:52 pm)
The one thing offsetting the performance of the GTi 1.8T is weight. This thing is a porker. The Civic should come in at under 2500 lbs.

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