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Honda Civic, Coupe
#269 of 3321 Hatchback Styling
Sep 21, 2001 (9:05 pm)
I consider it a good thing that Honda brought back SI as a hatchback. It wasn't until 1999 that Civic SI was sold as a coupe.
Based on CTR reviews from Europe, we're in for a surprise. One of them has to do with people who will find the interior too big, and the other is for people who will find it really spacious!
This is my first post in this thread, but I noticed that some people were feeling proud to say that Honda copied Ford's design for Focus, by comparing the 2002 Civic SI to ZX3, and even to 1992 hatchback. Apparently, they have no idea what 1996 Civic hatchback looked like. Except for the greenhouse (2002 has it similar to 1992 version), the rest of the styling is almost identical.
Oh yes, and reviewers have also loved the position of the shifter. IMO, this was a bold move by Honda.
#270 of 3321 LOL Robert
Sep 21, 2001 (9:41 pm)
I remember when that debate was going on.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized what the Civic had looked like before the Focus came out.
#271 of 3321 Comparison Pictures
Sep 22, 2001 (3:04 pm)
I thought posting couple of thumbnail pictures would enlighten those who didn't know about Civic hatchback styling from the near past.
The 2002 styling takes its 'greenhouse' cues from 1992 hatchback (longish looking window). Unfortunately, I couldn'timmediately find a comparable picture of the 1992 hatch to post here.
The only resemblance I see between Focus and Civic is in headlamp resemblance. But then, large round headlmaps were the strongest and unique exterior features for the 1996-2000 Civic, while Ford was selling Escort. So it makes sense to say that Ford made the Focus to resemble Civic, not the other way around.
#272 of 3321 Furthermore
Sep 22, 2001 (6:53 pm)
The current Civic's headlights seem to evolve from the Honda Insight- which was out before the Focus.
Sep 23, 2001 (8:58 pm)
Although the headlamps have slightly shrunk in the coupe/sedan with the 2001 changes, but they continue the theme started by Honda in 1996. The hatchback however has the headlamps taken directly from the previous generation Civic sedan, and so does the 2002 CR-V.
#274 of 3321 Yeah, but...
Sep 23, 2001 (10:16 pm)
the 2002 CR-V copied the body style of the Ford Escape. Some can say that it is an evolution of the last generation CR-V, but it just so happens that the new CR-V evolved to look quite similar in body form to the Escape.
So I guess it evens out the score.
Sep 24, 2001 (11:30 am)
the front bumper, I don't see anything on the CRV copied from Escape. I'd love to find out where do they resemble. CRV is another example of evolution, I will try to post comparative pictures here later.
#276 of 3321 Compare them
Sep 25, 2001 (3:23 am)
With side views of both models. You will see how the CR-V resembles the Escape in the execution of the car's overall shape. It basically looks like an Escape with rear tail lights that runs the 3/4 length of the whole back and a spare tire tacked on. Now compare that with a picture of the outgoing CR-V model, and it's obvious where Honda received its inspirations.
Sep 25, 2001 (4:06 pm)
Can we keep this a SUV-Free Zone? It suffices to say that all the "cute-utes" pretty much look the same in my rear-view mirror.
Sep 25, 2001 (8:21 pm)
But we were discussing how people were accusing Honda of copying Ford Focus's headlamps, which is simply not true.
However, my point was that Honda is guilty of copying other cars, just as every other automaker is.