Last post on Dec 21, 2007 at 4:11 PM
You are in the Honda Civic
What is this discussion about?
Honda Civic, Coupe
Nov 19, 2003 (9:08 pm)
Guess you just have the worst luck in the world then. I hate it for ya. We returned a 1998 Civic once for paint issues but that was about it. Honda helped us out with it by giving us fair trade, a 1999 Accord EX 5 speed at cost, and $1000 cash. We were happy since the 99' had just come out and there was no dealing on them in the Atlanta area.
That WAS the reason we sold that car. But since the previous one didn't roll, I desided to take a chance on the 03'. It doesn't roll. Nor did it burn any oil in the first few thousand miles like both of the previous ones did.
Our insurance rates are for 6 months
1994 LS400 $468
1995 GS300 $284
2003 Civic $211
2004 Accord $235
The Civic is the cheapest of the 4 even with the two Lexus's having $1000 deductibles. the Accord would be a little cheaper but I have $16 in gap coverage on it. The Civic is VERY reasonable for a sporty 2 door hatch. A lot of things can effect rates though. We have perfect credit(which they check now), live in the boonies, are married, and own our home with a garage.
Nov 19, 2003 (9:59 pm)
We have owned 20-something Hondas with all of them exhibiting exceptional quality/reliability and some of you have 1 supposedly bad SI and it's the end of Honda. Gimme a break. You would think that if the number of good and bad Hondas were split we would've gotten at least one bad one by now. Guess we are just 2 darn lucky people. Low insurance, 2 flawless Hondas (and a couple of Lexi), a new house, a baby on the way, and 2 stable jobs. Who needs the lottery. Life is good for us and we have alot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
Nov 20, 2003 (2:50 am)
"The new Si is made in the UK. Worst of all?"
Know what the British say about the US made Civic coupe? It aint too positive either. That's why they only sell a handful of coupes over there compared to the 3/5 door Civic sales.
A US built or branded car is viewed with caution in the UK. Of course, both views are based on a bias and not on facts.
#2480 of 3321 Si = bad
Nov 20, 2003 (5:05 am)
I have had my 2002 Si since January of this year. So, figure 11 months. These are the follwoing it has been in the shop for:
center vent broke
clear coat peeled
water in the spare tire well, 3 visits
driver's door handle
driver's window regulator, track and weather stripping
passenger door handle
passenger window regulator, track and weatherstripping
brakes resurfaced at 7000 miles
engine burning oil, at first it was a quart every 1000 miles, now it is a quart every 1500 miles, but still burning.
Mine will be going back to honda when the 2 year, 24,000 miles lemon law limit is approached. I like driving it ans might as well get the most use out of it. I called Honda and asked for complimentary Honda care warranty on it, but was refused. Now Honda will have to buy it back.
If you visit the EPhatch website and look under "list your factory defects" there are 3 pages of defects. For a car that only sold maybe 25,000 units in two years, that is pretty high rate of defects.
Nov 20, 2003 (9:32 am)
We are talking about cars here. Who cares about new houses and babies. Besides, I would only be thankful if I can buy 2 NEW Ferraris, a couple of NEW Lamborghinis, some NEW houses in San Francisco Bay Area or New York, and donít need to work. Also, before I brag about it, Iíll make sure theyíre all paid for first.
Sorry, just couldnít resist.
Nov 20, 2003 (11:46 am)
I was only kidding - a play on the historical reliability of British-made cars. Occasionally I'll pick up a British magazine, I know how they feel about most American cars.
Nov 20, 2003 (1:45 pm)
Your car was worse than my car, and I hope you get rid of it as I did. I think that Hondas used to be really good cars, but when Honda decided to cost cut by decontentizing their small cars, i.e. removing the double wishbone suspension from the front end, and other not so obvious deletions, they started a downward slide which is still going on. 2003 and 2004 cars I had were three piles of junk. Heck, my PZEV Focus is a much better car so far, and it cost a lot less. And it does not vibrate down the road, leak, rattle, or pull to the left all of the time. Also, the Ford dealer is about l0 times better than the Honda dealers I have had.
Nov 20, 2003 (1:55 pm)
How did I get into the parking brake discussion???
Nov 20, 2003 (10:41 pm)
What on earth has removing double wishbone suspension got to do with sliding reliability? Yes, I too believe the reliability has dropped, but there's nothing unreliable about struts, undesireable maybe.
My 02 Civic EX has had a number of minor problems, but they are mostly due to an ill-conceived design rather than something that has broken. While there were some improvements of the 7th gen over the 6th such has added torque and better shifter placement, there's a boat load of problems where engineers probably said, how can we make this new gen. of Civic seem cheaper. Case in point: the previously perfectly damped suspension is now a horrible pillow soft floaty mess. The power windows now make the interior panels move in/out. Even Hyundais don't do THAT.
Occasionally, I'll go for a ride in a friend's 99 Civic LX and marvel at the well controlled ride - no slop there.