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Honda Civic, Coupe
#2470 of 3321 We owned one of the first 03 EX-L's coupes
Nov 19, 2003 (9:38 am)
No problems. Far from a million. And not enough to measure on the consumer sites. I don't know where the million came from.
I don't see on the board how far Honda quality has slipped. When you consider they have built and sold around 4 million Accords over the past 10 years, the Acord problems board is a non-issue. The same thing happened back in 1998 with the model change. No big deal. Too bad there was no Edmunds back in 1990 with that changover, I'm sure the same things would have been happening.
When you compare the 1993 Accord with the 03 you have to also consider the 1993 was the 4th year of production for that generation. By the way...Civics built in the U.S. have been shown to have HIGHER initial quality than the Japanese built ones.
As for the parking brake thing....I have never had a car roll on me before or since whether I leave it in gear or not. The 3 SI's before that one didn't roll nor does the one I currently have. Call it what you want, the brake sucked. As far as normal to have problems...I wouldn't have bought 3 of them if that were the case. I guess my experience may be more normal since I have experience with more examples.
Nov 19, 2003 (1:08 pm)
Oh come on man, I used the term "MILLION" as a figure of speech, and not a definitive. My first Accord was in the dealers shop for a total of 46 tech hours trying to fix a loud body noise and a drive line problem. When they could not find the noise or problems source they wanted to take all of the window glass out of the car. That was when I traded that car for the second Accord, an EX thinking that it might be better than the LX which had the above problems. However, the EX had several problems of it's own, and it too, spent days and days in the dealers shop to no avail. I got so fed up with these cars that I switched to an Acura RSX. I had no problems, with that car and it was made in Japan. I put over 55000 miles on this car and traded it for the 04 Civic as the RSX rode a little too hard for my wife to enjoy, so we thought a Civic would be a car to try. It also failed to meet our expectations as it too had a drive line problem and tire troubles. The dealer and the tire co. blamed each other for the problem, (which everyone involved agreed was a very bad vibration which kept getting worse.) Nothing ever got done and after 5600 miles, I traded that Civic for the Focus, which so far, has not been any trouble. It now has 2200 miles with no problems of any kind. So maybe my luck really has changed to get a Focus with no problems. I do intend to change the 50 series tires and 16" wheels for 60 series tires and 15" wheels, as my wife insisted on this as part of the deal, because the 50's gave the car a jittery ride, and as this is to be a car she will be driving a lot I want her to be satisfied. I am going to buy a 05 Mustang GT for myself when they come out in the summer of 04. Goodby Honda.
Nov 19, 2003 (2:45 pm)
Anonymousposts claimed that 60% of the reason you sold the car was because of the parking brake.
I had the problem also, but once I learned to park the car in gear, it's never bothered me once.
Nov 19, 2003 (4:52 pm)
Hi everyone, this is my first post to the board, though I've been reading it since I bought my car over a year ago.
I have a white 2002 Si that I picked up for $3k under list in October 2002 (rescuing me from my 2002 LX, which just wasn't doing it for me). I'm very happy with it, and I've just a few problems. Just a few minor rattles, especially in the weather stripping between the door and the roof. Any one else with this problem?
As for the insurance, I did notice that mine went up this year, so the rating change does make sense.
Nov 19, 2003 (6:52 pm)
I have some serious squeaking with my driver's side door. They have got to look at that at the 20,000 mile checkup.
#2475 of 3321 Weak parking brake......
Nov 19, 2003 (6:56 pm)
I'll have to back snakerbill on the parking brake not being able to hold the car when out of gear. It's only been an issue for me when I'm in the car and have the engine running (i.e. I'm sitting in a parking lot waiting for a passenger to run into a store to get something). Any other time I would set the brake, the engine would be off and in gear - I've never seen the car roll that way.
My last civic (a 97 LX 4-door) could hold the car when not in gear - does that make rear drums superior to rear discs? In the case of parking brake grip, I guess it does.
#2476 of 3321 I put Armor-All on my weatherstripping
Nov 19, 2003 (8:08 pm)
every couple of weeks, and that takes care of my problem temporarily. Otherwise, every bump (and they are plentiful in Jersey) makes the door sound like a plastic cup full of rocks. (I know that's strange, but that's what it sounds like.) The dealer has been unable to find a permanent fix in two trips, but I don't think they've tried too hard. I'm trying silicone spray next.
The driver window also rattles a tiny bit, but luckily the mechanicals are good as new after 20K+ miles.
Nov 19, 2003 (9:08 pm)
Guess you just have the worst luck in the world then. I hate it for ya. We returned a 1998 Civic once for paint issues but that was about it. Honda helped us out with it by giving us fair trade, a 1999 Accord EX 5 speed at cost, and $1000 cash. We were happy since the 99' had just come out and there was no dealing on them in the Atlanta area.
That WAS the reason we sold that car. But since the previous one didn't roll, I desided to take a chance on the 03'. It doesn't roll. Nor did it burn any oil in the first few thousand miles like both of the previous ones did.
Our insurance rates are for 6 months
1994 LS400 $468
1995 GS300 $284
2003 Civic $211
2004 Accord $235
The Civic is the cheapest of the 4 even with the two Lexus's having $1000 deductibles. the Accord would be a little cheaper but I have $16 in gap coverage on it. The Civic is VERY reasonable for a sporty 2 door hatch. A lot of things can effect rates though. We have perfect credit(which they check now), live in the boonies, are married, and own our home with a garage.
Nov 19, 2003 (9:59 pm)
We have owned 20-something Hondas with all of them exhibiting exceptional quality/reliability and some of you have 1 supposedly bad SI and it's the end of Honda. Gimme a break. You would think that if the number of good and bad Hondas were split we would've gotten at least one bad one by now. Guess we are just 2 darn lucky people. Low insurance, 2 flawless Hondas (and a couple of Lexi), a new house, a baby on the way, and 2 stable jobs. Who needs the lottery. Life is good for us and we have alot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
Nov 20, 2003 (2:50 am)
"The new Si is made in the UK. Worst of all?"
Know what the British say about the US made Civic coupe? It aint too positive either. That's why they only sell a handful of coupes over there compared to the 3/5 door Civic sales.
A US built or branded car is viewed with caution in the UK. Of course, both views are based on a bias and not on facts.