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3321 messages, Last post on Dec 21, 2007 at 4:11 PM
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| I have seen that evolutionimports was geared up to sell Lancer EVO's, but I hadn't seen the Civic Type-R's. 25k after they make it US street legal??? Sounds almost too good to be true. Heck the EVO's seem like a killer deal as well. | |
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You relaying information that can't be verified by the source is hearsay. Why don't you go to court to sue Honda for putting bad transmissions in their cars and try using what you heard as evidence without the source of the information being allowed to testify and let's see if they let you use it. Even if I am a fanatic it is not without due cause. I love my boyfriend dearly because he is always there for me and has never let me down and if someone tried to insult him I would defend him til I was blue in the face. My car is also there for me every morning and has never let me down so I choose to defend it from erroneous information. So sue me. |
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| $25K is a bargain if you want a type R. Just to buy a type R in the UK would cost over $25K with the exchange rate prior to importation costs. The RSX Type-S at $23,270 is a better deal if you do not want the exclusivity of a Si R. | |
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What erroneus information? ROTFLMAO! And no one has to sue because all the Si's are under warranty. Poor quality faulty transmissions are admitted by Honda and covered by extended warranty so the Accord and Odyssey owners do not have to sue either. Perhaps you should have waited for the 2003 Si so you could get a blue one to match your blue face;) It is too funny to hear someones view that thinks discussing a mechanical problem of a vehicle is a personal insult. They are only machines made by imperfect people. Even the people who make Hondas make errors. |
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| It's that much, huh? Wouldn't a Subaru Impreza WRX be a better buy at $25K? Actually, some WRXs are now selling at invoice. It would be hard for me to justify $25K for a CTR. But that's me. | |
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Yeah at $25K, it's pricey. But it's definitely lighter than the WRX, and has a nicer gearbox. In my own opinion, the CTR looks better than both the WRX and current Si. I think the high price is due to the fact that these guys have to make the necessary adjustments and file all appropriate paperwork to get these on to U.S. pavement. I still think Honda could really get a foothold with this Si, if they just added the better tires, brakes, six-speed, and body kit (i.e., keep the 160hp engine). They could price this at $18K and really start selling these machines! |
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| http://www.hondacivictype-r.com/ here is the link to the website for the R model from Honda UK. | |
| The styling of the current Si is OK for me but I am older than the target audience. At the minimum Honda should put 16" or 17" wheels, better radio, and more aggressive styling to the front spoiler to get the attention of the 16-30 age group. The only thing I am likely to upgrade in my Si is the wheels and possibly the radio. I like a car that has performance capability but does not advertise it visibly. Also I do not see why Honda does not sell the red color Si in the US that is sold in Canada. | |
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Of your Honda, what else are you going to buy in it's price range? Here's some data from JD Power. Nameplate Rankings Reported Problems Per 100 Vehicles 1. Lexus 173 2. Infiniti 219 3. Jaguar 250 4. Lincoln 253 5. Acura 255 6. Honda 278 7. Toyota 278 8. Cadillac 285 9. Porsche 292 10. Mercedes-Benz 296 What else you gonna buy in this price range? Speaking of Civics. The 1997 Honda Civic garnered top honors as the Most Dependable Compact Car of the 1997 model year. Ranking second is Infiniti, followed by Jaguar. The highest-rated non-luxury brand is Honda, which takes sixth spot in the annual Power Vehicle Dependability Study. The report monitors the number and type of problems consumers have with their four- and five-year-old vehicles and covers more than 100 specific problem areas. The dependability study for 2001 was based on responses from 28,415 original vehicle owners, and owners who bought used 1997-model vehicles. Listed as below average in long-term dependability are, in alphabetical order: Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Eagle, GMC, Hyundai, Isuzu, Jeep, Kia, Land Rover, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Plymouth, Pontiac, Suzuki, Volvo and Volkswagen. Power does not publicly release the below-average rankings. But Power does name the top vehicles in each category, and here Toyota holds an impressive six first-place spots with its Tacoma, T100, 4Runner and Supra models. Lexus garners two spots with its LS 400 and LX 450, and Honda holds two top spots with its CR-V and Civic. Source: J.D. Power and Associates 2001 Vehicle Dependability Study |
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Actually Anony was dead on on the Chrysler transmission thing. I link you to: http://www.aei.ca/~gregoire/claude.html or http://www.geocities.com/plumraptor/ http://www.geocities.com/tekyle2000/home.htm It's all over the place that the Chrysler transmission is problematic. Along with the Windstar. http://www.pittsburgh.com/partners/wpxi/consumer/0927_windstartranny.html
Like I said..What else are you gonna buy? The Civic may not be perfect but what do you think will do you any better over time. All information you can gather points at the Civic or the Corrolla or the Protege. And each of them have their pluses and negatives. |
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