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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic Si / SiR 2005 and earlier
3321 messages, Last post on Dec 21, 2007 at 4:11 PM
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In addition to the feedback here, you may also want to check out Edmunds' Maintenance Guide to see if you can find any NHTSA TSBs (Technical Service Bulletins) that might be related to your vehicle problem/s.
Moparbad - Here's one I came across that I thought you might find interesting. The trouble code mentioned is similar to the one you mentioned above. Perhaps it might be related. |
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I got price quote for $14,499 from Colonial Honda in Glendale. I was very happy with the price untill I asked them the total price after TTL, which they say will be 16,211. The difference is 1,763, and that means 607 after 8% sales tax. Anybody know how much TTL will be considered reasonable here in CA ? |
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It's no secret that Honda is replacing transmissions in certain Accords and Odys. Without having the specifics on what models were having what done it's a little hasty to say "WOW, how many transmissions are failing". Quite a few problems? Have you bothered to check other forums? Any car can have problems. The thing with a Honda is chances are those problems are going to be few and far between when compared with comparable cars in their class. And if they are as problematic as you are making them out to be then I guess I am just darn lucky because mine run like clockwork. |
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Vibration in steering, interior fit and finish problems, oil consumption and fuel system/CEL problems are the items affecting the Si from what I've read on these forums and others, from talking to the dealer, and personal experience. Am I missing anything? The dealer service writer told me that the Si and the Hybrid are the most likely Civics to show up in the service bay. I like my Si but I am not brainwashed to think since it is a Honda it will be trouble free. Question- You earlier stated it is no secret that Honda is replacing transmissions in Accords and Odys.. This would indicate that there is a widespread problem with transmissions. You then state it is hasty for me to say question how many transmissions are being replaced. So is there a transmission problem or am I being hasty? Having a transmission fail on a Honda w/in 36,000 miles on a Honda is surprising to me and for two people at one dealership w/in one hours time have bad transmissions diagnosed was very surprising. And one owner had an Accord and the other a van. You are fortunate that your car is problem free but this does not mean you should criticize those of us who do have cars with problems. |
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The $607 difference might have included a dreaded documentation fee which may be a couple of hundred greenbacks.  I would find out. But, that's a hell of a deal that you're getting.
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Vibration in steering? That was traced back to tires if I'm not mistaken and was paid for by Honda. Interior fit and finish "problems"? If you check consumer reports almost every car has sample defects. There are few cars that come out of the factory absolutely perfect. Oil consumption? The S2000 and the RSX which has the same 2.0L engine suffered from the same "problem" and after a few thousand miles it tapered off. I agree that it's not desirable for your car to consume oil but follow your owner's manual and use common sense and keep an eye on your oil. I treated the car like a baby until it was out of the recommended break-in period and have checked it about every 500-600 miles. To date I have used a qt .. this isn't quite what I consider to be a "problem". It's more an inconvenience than anything else. And maybe that particular service departmet does see more SI's and Hybrids than any other Civic. Again, without specifics that's heresay. And both models are in their first year of production so maybe they do need a few adjustments. Who knows .. I do know that mine has been problem free. Like I said, I guess I am just darn lucky .. maybe I should go play the lottery tonight. There is not a widespread problem with Honda transmissions. Yes certain V6 models are getting replacement transmissions but it is far from widespread when it is only 2%. Widespread is almost all Taurus/Windstars/Caravans needing a transmission replacement within 60,000 miles. Some manufacturer's would kill to only have a 2% failure rate. I'm assuming that you had a conversation with the two people there since you know they both had a diagnosis of a bad transmission and they were under warranty. Did you find out if the cars they had were within the model range that Honda said was affected? Why shouldn't I criticize those who do have problems when I get criticized and called a Honda fanatic because I don't? |
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has anyone else seen this... |
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| I like my Si and am looking for solutions to problems and am honestly reporting my experience. The fact that you fail to recognize any defects, criticize people who have them instead of helping, call any information from others heresay (it is hearsay) and then make a blanket condemnation of Taurus/Windstar/Caravan just makes you seem mean spririted and uninformed. It is not hearsay when I was a witness to the problems and they are verified. I was there. What is the source of your 2% figure for transmission replacement? Wouldn't be from Honda would it? | |
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