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#1204 of 3321 OBD a bad thing? by dfbidwell Nov 15, 2002 (8:31 am)
Moparbad, what's not to like about having OBD? Fundamentally, it sounds like a good idea to me. I'd rather an annoying light come on the dash warning me of a problem (that may or may not be significant) than potentially paying out lots of money to have my car serviced.   I can see why you are not fond of it now since it sounds like your car is working fine regardless of the check engine light.   BTW, does the light come on all the time? I mean, did the light come on again after you started your car again?
#1205 of 3321 RE: Check engine light by kauai215 Nov 15, 2002 (1:28 pm)
No offense, but have you checked your oil level?   Someone else noted that after the oil level got very low, their "Check Engine" light came on.   The lightweight oil, and perhaps very loose tolerances, may be contributing to unusually high oil consumption in the initial miles.   I wouldn't think the level would drop that low in a mere 1000 miles, but who knows?   Anyway, just something you might want to check... just to be safe, in case you haven't.
#1206 of 3321 CEL on my SI by moparbad Nov 15, 2002 (2:36 pm)
The code is T1457. It is not the gas cap but is related to the gas tank and emissions. T1457 indicates that there is a leak in the system that returns vapors to the engine to be combusted. So it is not oil and it is not the gas cap. The Si has a resin tank and I wonder if this will be the start of a long problem relationship with my Si. Hope not. Reason I do not like OBD is that it has too many false indications of problems. Shop has to buy an expensive machine and customer does not want to part with $ just to hear that a code had to be reset. It is a losing proposition for both parties.
#1207 of 3321 Carpet in Si by moparbad Nov 15, 2002 (2:38 pm)
How well is the fit of the carpet in your Si? In the footwell of the front passenger the carpet in my Si is ill fitted and does not lay flat. It is somewhat crumpled. Is this normal?
#1208 of 3321 Wind noise by moparbad Nov 15, 2002 (2:40 pm)
Interested in comments regarding wind noise in the Si. Do you find it acceptable? I am used to VW which was very quiet. My Si has quite a bit of wind noise at 60 mph or above. I think it is from the hatch/spoiler or antenna area.
#1209 of 3321 I'm at 6,000 miles by anonymousposts Nov 15, 2002 (6:01 pm)
My check engine light isn't on, the carpet isn't wrinkled, and the road noise is pretty minimal in my car.
#1210 of 3321 RE: Wind Noise by kauai215 Nov 15, 2002 (10:02 pm)
Agreed. The wind noise surprised me from the start. I remarked on it on our test drive. I'd expected less with modern design.   On the other hand, the overall noise, relative to our '99 Si, was diminished at highway speeds. The drivetrain is astonishingly quiet. The engine hums like a sewing machine, reminding me of nothing so much as my old Mazda RX7 rotary. This '02 Si engine must be the smoothest 4 cylinder in history.   But about noise at speed: How about driving in the rain at interstate speeds? It sounds like hail is pounding on the side windows. Weird! Never heard the like of it before.   Love this car, though. I'm at a total loss to understand why they're not selling. This is one fine driver's machine.   It's a wonderful car.   So far, our only problem is that the center rear view mirror has come off.
#1211 of 3321 by anonymousposts Nov 16, 2002 (8:31 am)
If more people knew you could get them for $16,000 they would be selling at a much faster pace. Alot of people probably got turned off by the $19,400 sticker.   I also hear the tapping noise the rain makes on the side of the windows. I thought it was just me .. guess it's one of those quirks.
#1212 of 3321 frederic92025 by powderfinger Nov 16, 2002 (12:58 pm)
frederic92025,   I had the exact same problem that you described. What happened is that the car ate all the oil during the first 4,000 miles. The dealer first claimed that it was a leak, but I did not see any evidence of this after the initial problem. I changed dealers.   I wish I had better news for you. I have over 21,000 miles on my car and have had to check the oil every 500-1000 miles since it consumes so much. I would expect that you will have the same problem.   Here's my advice: document every dealer encounter, and have them check, add and change your oil. Depending on your state, you will need to give the dealership an opportunity to "fix" the problem (typically 3 or 4 attempts). Once you have done this, you will be eligible for a legal claim.   The manufacturer will tell you that it's OK to use 1 quart of oil every 1,000 miles. (This is no joke!) If you follow the manufaturers guideline for oil changes (one change every 10,000 miles under normal circumstances) you will have to add 6-10 quarts of oil between changes!   The most important step is to get the dealer to run an "oil consumption" test. They will accurately mark and measure that level between oil changes such that they can say determine exactly how much oil is being used. Once this is done, they will get an official response from Honda (make sure this is documented in your invoive) regarding the excess consumption after the test is completed.   I have a current legal case against Honda. If you need any more information about my experience or how to get it resolved , let me know.
#1213 of 3321 by anonymousposts Nov 16, 2002 (5:15 pm)
Maybe you should've treated the car better during the initial break-in period.

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