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#1189 of 3321 Why would you think I'll buy a used A4 when I just sold my 01 A4??? by hamproof Nov 12, 2002 (8:56 pm)
Not to mention I just bought the 02 Si yesterday. You have a weird sense of humor. Either that or your blind loyalty to the H is confusing your mind.   It is people like you who never question and always follow. I'm sure when you bring your beloved Si to your Honda dealer for some squeak and rattle or just for some noise, you'll just take what the dealership feeds you and we all know what that it - "Oh that noise, it is normal".   I've heard that many times in my previous ownership of a Honda.
#1190 of 3321 Never question and follow??? by gee35coupe Nov 12, 2002 (9:36 pm)
Elaborate please.   She answered your question about the gear whine. She's owned 2 02 Si's and countless other Hondas. Honda's have a gear meshing sound when you put them in reverse. All Civics have the sound and as you said the ones you tested did. A4's do get cheap quick. If you wanted a cheap beater you coulda got a nice one for the price of the Si and had a silent reverse, a turbo 150hp, 4 wheel drive, HID's and everything. I don't compare the Si to my Lexus, but then I wouldn't compare an A4 to a Lexus LS400 either.
#1191 of 3321 No deal for me by 204meca Nov 13, 2002 (12:02 am)
Hammy, congrats on your deal. As for the noise in reverse, sounds like every (5) Hondas I have owned.   I did not do as well as you. I went to the mat with the Honda dealer & VW deal & lost both matches! I truly could not make up my mind between the Si & GTI, so decide to try & buy based on the best deal I could make.   Local Honda store has 2 02 Si "demos". One with 3K & another with 2.3K miles (not 5K as previously posted). They offered my $6,800 for my 97 Del Sol Si, but would not go below $17,900 for either of their demos. I said I would keep my DS unless could get the Si out the door for $7,000. They said $11,200 & I walked. They called me the next day saying it was the last day for a special deal on O2 Si & that they had a party interested in my Del Sol, offered my $8,800 for DS, making it $9,200 for 02. I said send my the interested party so I can sell the DS at retail & then I'll bargin on Si. No deal! I guess they are not too desperate enough yet to depart with their Si as they certainly are not coming down to sub $16K levels. Incidentally, I looked at the dipstick on the 02s - yep, both were down a quart!   My experience with at 02 GTI with 14AK miles was similar. Best I could get was $9,300, so I drove off.   Since I am only willing to spend $7K for either of these rides, I guess I am not really ready to part with the DS. I suspect I will get one of the newer ones in a year or two, but for now I will continue to enjoy 40 mpg and let me $7K earn a little more interest. I may try sell the DS myself, but experience with a 94 DS suggests that there is not a big market for these, especially when the rain starts to fall here in WA state! OR perhaps these cars will still be on the lot at the end of the month...
#1193 of 3321 204Meca by hamproof Nov 13, 2002 (5:01 am)
At $8800 and $9200, that gives a price of $18k. I'm not sure if you are in a state where you get a tax credit for trading in and buying a car. Basically in some states, you pay taxes on the amount after the trade-in. So, if that's the case, you do save a few hundred dollars more.   But I think your initial offer might be too low. For them to give you $6800 and you to offer $7k, that would be only $13.8k. That would be low balling them but I guess they lowballed you on the trade. I think it is best for you to sell the Del Sol privately. It makes negotiation on the Si much easier. But at $17,900 it is definitely not a deal since it is a dealer demo!   Which part of the country are you from? Even from carsdirect.com, you can get the Si for $16.7 (the last time I checked). Definitely pass for $17.9k
#1194 of 3321 by muffin_man Nov 13, 2002 (9:18 am)
I've owned a couple Honda's, and both made the whining noise in reverse. I've always assumed it was normal, and hadn't given it much thought. (one automatic, one 5-spd) I always thought it sounded kind of like a battery powered RC car or something.
#1197 of 3321 hamproof by himiler Nov 13, 2002 (1:22 pm)
Trust me: the gear whine you're hearing in reverse is normal, and indicates neither a problem nor a design flaw.   I've put over 1,000,000 miles on Hondas (no joke), and have never had a MT problem.
#1198 of 3321 A couple posts were deleted... by revka Nov 13, 2002 (6:41 pm)
because of comments that were was not appropriate for these discussions. To those concerned: let's please tone it down a little. Life's too short to get so worked up over someone else's opinion.... Okay? Let's not forget that we're all here (most of us anyway), because we share the same interest in the Honda Si / Sir. Thanks for your participation!   Revka Hatchbacks & Wagons Host

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