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#1180 of 3321 Hard-wiring Valentine 1?? by hamproof Nov 12, 2002 (4:56 am)
Anyone has hard-wired a V1 to the SI yet?? I know I've been asking this many times, but I'm sure someone has to have done it, right?   I tried to do it last night upon driving home w/ the 02 SI I bought. I decided to use the ACC Cigarette Lighter fuse location (15A). But taking this out renders the lower cigarette outlet useless. I thought maybe it is for the upper cigarette outlet which I didn't pay to get installed. I wish I had though since it would make it easier for me now to use my V1 w/ the remote display.   But my long term solution would be to hardwire it. I've a spade type connection on the V1 hardwire kit. It doesn't really fit in the fuse slot of the SI. So, even if I want to, I can't use that fuse location.   Any DIYers out there who has an easy way?? I would hate to take out the trim and tap into the moonroof which btw, I think is a 20A from the fuse description. But I've seen people doing it this way.   Last thing, how easy or hard it is to buy the extra cigarette accessory and DIY for the outlet on the dash?
#1181 of 3321 My 02 Si Initial Impression by hamproof Nov 12, 2002 (5:13 am)
So, I sold my 01 A4 1.8T Quattro sedan and went to a front drive 02 Si 2.0 NA hatch.   The drive home (about 60 miles) was in some light rain. I got to say I'm pretty impressed w/ the Si handling. Even w/ all season in the wet, I could take on ramp at about the same speed I usually do w/ the A4. The A4 being AWD + summer tires. So, in that aspect it is good. But as the winter months approach, I might not have as much confidence as I had w/ the A4. Will see then. Winter tires might help as I've a set for the A4.   The ride is a little stiffer. I'm surprised. But I think I might get that impression because the cabin is not as quiet as the A4. When I'm going 80-90 driving home, I felt the car was going fast. At those speed in the A4, it didn't feel so fast. Also, I could feel irregularies on the road in the Si. I guess the A4 has better sound deadening material and insulation. But hey, the A4 cost me $28k.   The interior lighting is not too bad. I like the orange color though I wish the contrast is a little better. And yes, I did turn it all the way up. In the A4, it is white and red lighting. It looks really cool at night coz' everything lights up red. But I can live with it.   I was disappointed in the halogen lights on the Si compared to the auto-leveling Xenons on the A4. But it is no comparison. One is halogen and one is high intensity discharge. On dark roads, I was struggling to see. The rain didn't help matters either. Wipers were bad. Kept streaking and making noise. I guess unless you have HID, you don't realize what you are missing. Since I've had it for 2 years, it'll take me some adjusting to do. Rain-X and new wipers will help solve the wiper problems. But I've to think about the direction I'm gonna take on the headlights. HID kits are about $500-800 on the Si (I believe) or I could get bulbs (not the fake painted silver/blue ones) for about $75.   The floormats are really nice on the Si. But I bought a set of WeatherTechs for $80 (front and rear). It was sad to see the Si wording being covered. Now, I'm looking to buy some cargo liners and some sort of cargo net. Makes it easier when I do grocery so things don't go flying around.   And I also de-badged. A common practise among euro car drivers. I took away the Civic lettering naturally. It looks pretty neat w/ just the H and Si.   In all, I hope this car will serve as my beater for years to come unless I can get a job closer to home. 18k/year is a little too much to put on a car (Audi) that requires EXTRA TLC.
#1182 of 3321 RPM @ 60MPH by wazappa Nov 12, 2002 (7:24 am)
Does anyone recall what rpm you are turning at 60 or 70 mph?
#1183 of 3321 Valentine 1 by hamproof Nov 12, 2002 (7:32 am)
Upon further reading on other installs, I've decided to tap in into an existing switch power supply. Now, the big question is which one to use? I do not want to remove too many panels and having read the instructions on removing the lower dash panel where that 1 lone cigarette outlet is, I thinking maybe I'll tap into the power wire that powers that outlet. Anyone has any thoughts on this? I also need to find a ground bolt to attach the ground wire from the V1 car kit.
#1184 of 3321 Wazappa by greenguy Nov 12, 2002 (10:30 am)
80mph I am at just under 4Krpm.
#1185 of 3321 My 02 Si Initial Impression - hamproof by tprice Nov 12, 2002 (3:27 pm)
I don't own this car (yet) but understood that the car came equipped with a cargo net - at least that's what the product literature says?   I'm close finalizing deal on a remaining 2002 $19,460 MSRP. Right now looks like $16,750 (+Tax & Title)less $4,800 allowance for my 98 Hatchback DX that has 90,000 miles on it. Never know for certain but seems reasonable based on not able to get any further competitive interest/offers from 3 other local Honda dealers. Was told there is a $500 manufacturer to dealer incentive that ends today? I'm still a little concerned with the heavy discounting and what it will mean to resale in a couple of years considering they didn't want to budge off of MSRP earlier this year. The dealers say not to worry about it, but hard not to at least think about it!
#1186 of 3321 No, there's no cargo net on mine. I think it is an added accessory. by hamproof Nov 12, 2002 (3:34 pm)
W/ a trade-in it is kinda hard to figure out what your true cost is. For reference, the deal I got was for $15,995 (with dest. included). This dealership even throw in the nice Si floormats (approx. $65 value) and didn't charge me the usual $40 DOC fee. From other dealers I was told about the $500 incentive. Not sure when it ends. I was going to settle for $16,500 but the attitute of the dealership was just terrible. It was fortunate for me to find one that was 1 hr. away with 2 02 Si left and at a great price to boot.   With regards to resale value, if you pay less, you'll definitely get less in the future. The only people who get burned are those who paid close to $19k when they first came out. As it is right now, 03 are going for $17k (at this dealership I bought my 02 from). The other dealers are selling for approx $17.5-$18k in metro Detroit. Since 02 and 03 are essentially the same except for laser cut key, new blue color and heat rejecting windows, I say you shouldn't be worry too much about the future. People who buy Si buy it because they like the car. Hatchback and whatever power it has. At least you have $1-$2k advantage over what the other people paid when it first came out.
#1187 of 3321 by anonymousposts Nov 12, 2002 (5:31 pm)
The cargo net is not standard. You have to buy it and either install it yourself or take it to a dealer. Since drilling is required to install it I paid my dealer $15 to do it and got the cargo net off of www.handa-accessories.com. www.manhonda.come is also a good source for cheap parts.   hammie: I still say not to pay the noise in reverse any attention. Every Honda I've ever owned has made the noise and some of them have had over 130,000 miles on the original clutch without showing signs of wear. If it bothers you that bad maybe you need to sell your SI and buy another A4. Used ones are pretty cheap.
#1188 of 3321 For accessories... by crikey Nov 12, 2002 (7:49 pm)
try hondacuraworld.com also.
#1189 of 3321 Why would you think I'll buy a used A4 when I just sold my 01 A4??? by hamproof Nov 12, 2002 (8:56 pm)
Not to mention I just bought the 02 Si yesterday. You have a weird sense of humor. Either that or your blind loyalty to the H is confusing your mind.   It is people like you who never question and always follow. I'm sure when you bring your beloved Si to your Honda dealer for some squeak and rattle or just for some noise, you'll just take what the dealership feeds you and we all know what that it - "Oh that noise, it is normal".   I've heard that many times in my previous ownership of a Honda.

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