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#1158 of 3321 moparbad - thanks for clarifying too. But still 02 for $15,995 is great by hamproof Nov 08, 2002 (11:33 am)
WITH dest. thrown in coz' it is $460. Now, how to I get this deal from local dealers? Are you a relative of the owner of that dealership by any chance? Did you have a trade? Did you finance through them? They didn't reel you in with an 18% loan did they?
#1159 of 3321 Offer on 2003 Si by crikey Nov 08, 2002 (11:41 am)
A couple of posts back, I said that a dealer is offering $16,450 (including destination) + tax + tag + $400 dealer fee for a 2003 Si, which is just a difference of $455 (not counting dealer fee) on moparbad's deal. I'm trying to get the dealer fee off and if I do, I think it's as good as it may get on a 2003.
#1160 of 3321 Do 2002s have an financing incentive? by crikey Nov 08, 2002 (11:44 am)
I thought I saw that recently. This would make a 2002 a better deal.
#1161 of 3321 Dealer fee can't be negotiated. At least not the official doc fee. by hamproof Nov 08, 2002 (11:44 am)
In MI, it is a standard $40. Any dealership that charges more is just trying to make more money from the clueless customers. However this fee varies from state to state. So it might very well be in your state, it cost $400. I believe in CA, it cost about $200?? Correct me if I'm wrong.   Where abouts are you at Crikey?   The fine print on one of the dealership here in metro Detroit says you have to give up the special AHFC financing in lieu of the dealer cash. However, I do believe it is all too late now. I believe the 1.9/2y, 3.9/3y etc. financing terms ended 10/31.
#1162 of 3321 Si details by moparbad Nov 08, 2002 (11:57 am)
The $15,995 price was negotiated over the phone before I went to the dealer. It was price w/o trade. The price was not advertised at the time so I was emailing many dealers and offering $16K for a Si. I did finance thru Honda. When I went to the dealership I already had financing arranged thru my CU but the dealership beat the rate. A doc fee of less than $50 was added and that was only added fee other than tax, title and license. Two other dealers called later in the day and offered me the same deal.
#1163 of 3321 hamproof by crikey Nov 08, 2002 (12:01 pm)
I'm in FL. Dealers here charge so much on fees -- built-in profit.
#1164 of 3321 From my limited experience w/ dealerships in Metro Detroit, by hamproof Nov 08, 2002 (12:05 pm)
when you go in w/ an agreed upon price of $16k, they'll spring the dest. charge $460 when you sign papers. What can you do? This is Detroit
#1165 of 3321 Busy day by anonymousposts Nov 08, 2002 (7:54 pm)
You can look at the pictures that you posted and see that even though all 4 cars are hatchbacks the Civic's are obviously bigger and definitely not as cheap looking as the Daewoo and Metro. IMO somebody who puts a SI in the same class as a Metro, just because of the number of doors and the design of them, doesn't deserve to drive a SI.   4 hours isn't too far to drive if it's a car you want and the price is right. And look at it this way, at least by the time you get home the break-in period will almost be over and you won't have to baby the car as long. Those first few weeks were a drag when I had to shift at 3500 RPM every time.
#1166 of 3321 I must be getting old. In my A4 (which was sold last night :) by hamproof Nov 09, 2002 (2:54 am)
I usually shift around 3-4k RPM. But maybe that's coz' it has enough torque and I don't see the reason to redline it. Either that or I'm just looking to get to work.   You and I know that the SI looks way better than the Metro or Lanos. But you got to admit the previous CTR in JapAN has always been a hatchback and it looks like the 00 Civic Hatch. Now that bears a strong similarity to the Metros.   I'm not trying to put down the SI. I like the styling despite it looking like a Metro or mini-Odyssey. But at least I admit the average joes and janes (and I do have a lot of those where I work - big 3 auto maker) will not know the difference from a CTR (if it is sold in US) from a Metro let alone the SI. But I don't care.   4 hrs. isn't far to drive. Chicago is about 280 miles away. Maybe you can give me a ride to Chicago? No? The problem is how the heck do I get there? Bus, train, plane?? Seem so much hassle just to save $460 on the dest. The price in metro Detroit is $15988 + dest. Price in Chicago is $15995 w/ dest.   Ok.. now I don't have a car officially. Strange feeling.
#1167 of 3321 by anonymousposts Nov 09, 2002 (7:56 am)
The SI has plenty of torque especially after driving a 00 SI for a few months. That doesn't mean that it isn't fun to redline it or even rev to 6000 RPM. It's such a smooth engine it makes you want to do it.

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