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#11 of 3321 by rmtrader Apr 16, 2001 (7:47 am)
Ugly? Thy name is WRX. Yet, the WRX drives so well that it's owners care less about its profile than the feel behind the wheel. I suspect that the Civic SI will fall into the same category. Remember, there are only so many ways to design a hatchback.....
#12 of 3321 by epicurux Apr 16, 2001 (9:49 am)
At least the WRX has REAL performance ... That SI looks so much like a Focus ...
#14 of 3321 by qbrozen Apr 16, 2001 (10:14 am)
If you think that looks like an old Civic, I think you either need glasses or you should take another look. That front end is right from a focus. let's see:
#15 of 3321 by qbrozen Apr 16, 2001 (10:23 am)
hmmmm.... Are those even 2 different cars? I just can't tell. And, how about for comparison, we throw in a 92 Civic (sorry, i don't have a better picture, but I think this one shows enough): I have to apologize, I'm usually not so sarcastic, but sometimes its just plain fun.
#16 of 3321 by qbrozen Apr 16, 2001 (10:26 am)
Oh, and one more thing, ugly may be subjective, but at least the WRX can be picked out easily from a crowd. Maybe that's not always the best thing (especially when in a line of speeders when blowing past a trooper). But I give the designers credit for thinking outside the box (not to mention I LOVE the WRX for looks AND performance.)
#17 of 3321 by rmtrader Apr 16, 2001 (4:21 pm)
epicurux, qbrozen,   the WRX is still one of ugliest cars on the road. Thanks god it has good performance so it won't hang around long enough to take any stares away from the Aztec. The designers didn't think out of the box, they clearly were recent hires from Hyundai and Kia. You guys only like the looks of the WRX BECAUSE of its performance. I doubt either of you are looking at a 2.5RS just because, "I LOVE the looks." Give your heads a shake.
#18 of 3321 by qbrozen Apr 16, 2001 (4:37 pm)
um.... actually I did want the RS for the looks. Its not like IT has a lot of power. There are many vehicles out there that beat it. The only reason I couldn't get an RS was because my wife was one of those who thought it was ugly.   But, back to the issue at hand. This is the Honda Si board. How did the WRX even get mentioned here? Was it because the argument is being made that the performance of the Si makes up for its ugliness? Now THAT deserves a "head shake".   OK. Maybe ugly is a tad harsh for the Si shown here. How about boring? Is that less offensive? I like the last Si. That was so much better looking, in my opinion. At least I could tell what that is when its coming at me on the road. I'll never spot this one unless I glance at the emblem while blasting past it in my WRX.
#19 of 3321 by markwanc Apr 16, 2001 (6:51 pm)
I have to admit that Honda must have stole the '02 Si design right out of the garbage bins in the back of the design plan office for the Ford Focus. I happen to like the Focus, so I also now happen to like the Si (Honda, shame on you for stealing designs!). Ford is gonna have an 'SVT' Focus that has 170 HP late in '01. I guess its gonna be about $18K, so this will be interesting to see the price tag of the Honda. I like the shifter position! The SVT Focus is gonna be a 6 speed, is the '02 Si also gonna be a 6 speed? I had a 2000 Si and with the 4:40 final drive ratio, it pulled about 3,700-3,800 RPM at 60MPH. It needed a 6 speed as the high RPM was just'too much' on long trips.
#20 of 3321 by sunilb Apr 16, 2001 (7:31 pm)
I think this SI is too little and too late. Think of the competition: Focus SVT and Sentra SE-R V-Spec (or even regular SE-R). Both of these cars will have more torque and more hp. Combine that with the un-sophisticated suspension (read: no double-wishbone) on the SI, and I don't really see how this car will be "better" than either of those. Okay, well, I can imagine the Honda will be more reliable than the Ford but on par with the Sentra.   I like hatchbacks, but this one is very uninspiring [aesthetically] and performance wise will pale by comparison.

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