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Nissan Altima, Sedan
#312 of 4962 The current altima
Jun 07, 2001 (1:46 pm)
Nissan had a good thing going with the first generation Altima. They just botched it up with the 98 - present Altima that has no character, not to mention being smaller than the Camry and the Accord 4 cyl. You see how Honda responded with the 98 Accord, when it realized that the smaller sized Accord was not what the customers were looking for. Nissan must have the dumbest marketing research folks out there because it doesn't seem like they have a clue.
Case in point - Q45, just when all the luxury cars were going for performance. Nissan/Infiniti reduces the HP in the 1997 Q45. They claim performance advantages and even changed the slogan to Accelerating the future, yet the new Q is slower than the Lexus. And I don't think the new Q is more luxurious than the almost Rolls Royce like LS430. Just watch..even though the Q is a very, very nice car and they have come a long way...if the new Q's 340hp only does 0-60 in 6.5... it'll be another also ran in the luxury market.
The new Altima seems real nice but the other carmakers are not resting on their laurels... we'll see what the new Camry looks like and in 2003, the Accord. You don't think Toyota can make a 3.5 ltr engine that can put out 240hp? Honda can just put the 3.2 liter Type-s engine from the TL/CL...and wholla! No R&D cost and a 260HP engine!!!
Nissan has a long road ahead, they need to hit home runs for the next 5 years to become a formidable power again.
Jun 07, 2001 (4:12 pm)
at least nissan was finally able to gain profit last year (after many years of debt). hopefully they'll be able to keep it up
#314 of 4962 first things first
Jun 07, 2001 (5:12 pm)
the first thing that Nissan has to make sure is that they retire the lame 5-speed in the Maxima..another opportunity lost, if I might add... and put in a decent 5-speed worthy of the rest of the car. If they put the same 5-speed in, which will most likely be the case...it'll be history repeating itself... another Nissan car with a terrible achilles heel.
Still wondering if they'll have the automatic climate control in the top of the line Altima. Anyone know?
Jun 08, 2001 (3:34 pm)
the maximas getting a 6 speed manual this fall (with the 02s)
Jun 12, 2001 (6:52 am)
roninjouten Jun 7, 2001 2:09pm
well then your area pricing is different.. EX 2.3 with leather is
(Honda2001.com lists MSRP WITH spoiler at 24,359 as no option with Carsdirect)
including ABS, Security, cabin filter, 6 disc changer and standard spoiler. Let's not forget 16" rims, and a longer powertrain warranty.
hmmm so I can get a comparable car with a longer powertrain warranty, bigger tires for $2000 less than an Accord thru Carsdirect. hmmm decisions..
an looking at the options of next year's Altima.. 180base HP or a 240 HP V6 big jump from this yrs Accord. better options IMO.. hmmmm.
Jun 12, 2001 (8:29 pm)
"hmmm so I can get a comparable car with a longer powertrain warranty, bigger tires for $2000 less than an Accord thru Cars direct. hmmm decisions.."
Some of us don't think the current Altima is a comparable car to the Accord. hmmm...
#318 of 4962 Comparable
Jun 12, 2001 (8:41 pm)
Most people consider the Accord more car for more money. If one thinks they're comparable, that's all it matters - to that person. Just accept the fact that you're in the minority - nothing wrong with that.
Jun 13, 2001 (5:07 am)
Other than the fact that the accord is slightly larger inside, how is it more for the money?
you have a standard 155hp DOHC engine with a timing chain VS, an optional 150hp SOHC with a timing belt, the V TEC also requires a valve adjustment at I believe 30,000 miles. Altima has 2 liquid filled engine mounts, accord one. Suspension modifications on the altima are not even available on the accord, (ASD shocks, strut tower brace, Sport trim). No home link transmitter on any 4cylinder accords, 4channel ABS vs 3 channel, 100 watt CD& cassette VS 80 watt CD.
and 5yr/60,000 mile warranty VS 3yr/36,000 mile warranty. And actually JD power data does show that the 4cylinder accord, camry and altimas are heavily cross shopped. So, please explain for us the minority how all of this for a couple thousand less is less for the money? What would you compare the 4cylinder accord to, a Maxima?
Jun 13, 2001 (5:52 am)
The majority is the American car-buying public. It doesn't have to be right. It's all in the perception. Why's Nissan coming out with a much-larger Altima? Why do people say "Nissan can finally compete with the Accord/Camry"? When the new Altima is finally released, most people will prefer it over the current one. A minority will, however, still prefer the old one. They may say the new one's more like the Accord/Camry. I'm looking at this topic from a marketing point of view. Sell to the public what it wants (if you're going after volume).
#321 of 4962 hkchan is right on target
Jun 13, 2001 (7:58 am)
Nissan's old Atlima was narrowly marketed to those budget minded people who were willing to sacrifice a few things for the lower priced, smaller Altima compared to its supposed competitors the Camry and Accord. In reality, the car buying public saw the Altima in some odd never-never land, not quite a puny compact like a Sentra and not quite a midsize like a Camry/Taurus.
Nissan is going for distinct branding now. The New line up will involve a Sentra, Altima and Maxima at all the major selling points for non luxury cars. Before they had the Nissan competing against the Civic and the Max as a minimal contender with either the Avalon or Camcord. The Altima was odd man out. Obviously that marketing and design approach was wretched. With three clear lines and three segments to attack Nissan stands a better chance of making serious inroads with the Altima and Maxima brands in 2003 (when the Max goes toe-to-toe with the Avalon).