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#952 of 1536 Re: Freelander 2003 (tie rods) [ashleighc]
May 10, 2006 (2:21 am)
If you are a US owner you have mercifully been spared the "joys" of ownership of a 1.8 litre petrol powered Freelander. Had this model been released in the US I can only muse as to whether Land Rover would have still been in business. For interest refer almost any non US forum. Head/Head-gasket/wet-sleeve-cylinder-block/coolant/circulation design issues combined to make the 1.8 K series petrol engine essentially a "consumable". For issues with your particular engine I suggest you look at the many Land Rover/Freelander Forums.
The transmission is a somewhat different issue being common to all Freelanders regardless of engine type and size. The villain in the piece is the "viscous coupling" which is a purely mechanical self actuating device fitted to the transmission shaft between the front and rear axles systems.
In principle it is a simple clever device which allows the car to act as a front wheel drive car on hard surfaces, reacting to wheel slippage on soft surfaces, "locking up" and converting the car to so-called 4 wheel drive.
The problem is that especially on earlier Freelanders this coupling gradually locked up permanently and driving the car on normal hard surfaces causes "transmission windup" which causes excessive load on and excessive wear and eventual failure of the rear diff and its support structures and the front Intermediate Reduction Drive. The early symptom is a general tightening and sometimes near stall as the vehicle reverses slowly on tight steering lock. This is often accompanied by the rear tires scrubbing and jumping and not surprisingly very rough tyre wear. Tweaking the diff ratios has apparently minimized the problem but the viscous coupling seems to be inherently suspect.
Sorry to be a bit long winded but thats my 2 cents worth.
#953 of 1536 '02 Overheating????
May 26, 2006 (7:09 pm)
Bear with me here.... As I was driving on the highway this afternoon - I noticed that my AC wasn't working too well (or not at all). I didn't pay too much attention since "little" things break down regularly on my LR. I went to the store, came out 30 minutes later and started my car.... again thinking... "I wonder why the AC isn't working". Well, 5 minutes later I notice white smoke/steam coming out from under my hood! This causes me to look at my temp guage which was all the way to HOT!!! I immediately pulled over and called the LR dealership who suggested I have the car towed. As it was 5:45pm on the start of a 3-day weekend - I full well knew that no one would be at the dealership by the time I would be towed in. I decided to wait 10 minutes or so and drive to my husband's office (only a mile or so away). Again, the cars temp guage rocketed to HOT - but this time no steam. The car will be towed to the dealership next week - but before it goes in I was hoping to get some suggestions on WHAT IN THE WORLD HAPPENED!! By the way, I only have 34,000 miles or so AND I had my 36,000 mile service (a little early) in March. I am open to any and all suggestions as my car saavy is sadly lacking. Thanks!!!
#955 of 1536 Re: '02 Overheating???? [cstoltz]
Jun 01, 2006 (10:55 am)
Sounds like your thermostat has stuck open.
My advice is to leave it at your husbands office with the keys in the ignition, doors unlocked and if lucky when you return next week it will be gone.
#956 of 1536 Re: '02 Overheating???? [sacstate1]
Jun 01, 2006 (2:23 pm)
While your leave-the-keys-and-run advice sound wise, we had the car towed to the dealership (thank you AAA). The diagnosis is, as you suspected, a broken thermostat - which caused the coolant not to circulate - which caused the car to overheat - which caused the intake gasket on the engine to blow. And to think the service guy on Friday asked me to drive my car into the dealership - I may have been looking at a whole new engine had I followed his advice! YIKES! We are currently working with LR North America to see if they will cover the repairs as I am only 4 months out of warrenty (AND have had ALL my services done on TIME BY the DEALERSHIP). Any advice out there on dealing with LRNA? It also sounds like this is a known issue as I have found multiple posts with similar tales of woe. c.
#957 of 1536 Lemon Went Back
Jun 07, 2006 (8:19 am)
My Freelander went back. It was not easy. I gave up on it and started with arbitration, then lawyers. I had more than 50 days out of service last year. Notable is that buy-back took lawyers and had delays. I am still waiting to get the money out I had in it. Every step takes a month or more. I am possibly afraid to buy the LR3 and afraid to say much. It is possible but, expect to work hard to give any car back at any manufacturer. Failures: trans., tail light leak, center arm rest snap, crushed wiring harness when new trans installed, missing bolt after new trans installed, 5 visits to prove trans failed. 39 days to replace trans.. Suspect head gaskets were starting to leak coolant, added 10 oz. after some amount of time. Used 3/4 quart of oil in 3000 miles. I was carefully checking fluids to be sure I did not have any fluid leaks or seize the engine by surprise as some have alleged. I was going to take the best care possible of this vehicle which I liked. Maybe, if the LR3 was ready, I would try one.
#958 of 1536 Re: auto show news [0audilicious0]
Jun 11, 2006 (6:29 am)
Land Rover is a tough company. That means if you buy it, it is your's and your problem. That is my experience. It could take 10 years for them to get loyalty and beat the bad press. JD Powers rates them low. In contrast a sister division Jaguar is rated in the top 25%. Jaguar is not perfect in reputation but, apparently customer service is better. Maybe, Land Rover can make a comeback, too. I like the design; Just not the service.
#961 of 1536 Re: Head Gasket Resolution--the Hard Way [KicKMan1]
Jun 14, 2006 (9:55 am)
How nice that LRNA paid for half!! They aren't doing anything for me despite the fact that I am only months out of warrenty and below 35,000 miles. I am also learning the "hard way" that my '02 S is slowly becoming a money pit. My car has been at the dealership for over two weeks now and although they "fixed" what they said was a broken thermostat (which caused overheating and then a blown intake gasket), they have now discovered that the heater core is leaking coolant and will need to be replaced (again). This part was ALREADY replaced about two years ago (under warrenty)!! When talking with the dealership about the status of my care, the customer service rep fully admitted over the phone that the '02 FLs are KNOWN to have chronic coolant issues. The only good to come out of this, is that the service manager IS going to cover the costs for the new heater core (although not the blown gasket/broken temp guage). Hopefully, the third time is the charm. It may be too late, but I am going to look into extended warrenties - or a new car.