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Land Rover Freelander, SUV
#864 of 1536 Re: 2004 freelander, 2004 liberty or 2005 escape? [gallovescars]
Aug 08, 2005 (5:15 am)
Motor vehicle complaints
It is widely accepted by 4WD mechanics that Freelander K-series 1.8lt engines are known to drop the cylinder liners into the block. Because the liners are steel and the block is alloy, the liners being harder, work their way into the block. The bad news is; If the liners are too low, the engine needs to be replaced - this is fact, confirmed by Land Rover. In some cases engines have been replaced several times, at average intervals of only 50000 km. That's not just bad luck.... that's a design fault.
Just a reminder to all "Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure" victims in Australia. If you have made a claim against Land Rover Australia and are unhappy with the response, you should put your concerns in writing to the ACCC office in your state. Go to http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/54229/fromItemId/3634 for postal addresses.
The ACCC is now collecting data on this issue and will pursue the case if there are sufficient complaints indicating a pattern.
#866 of 1536 Re: Any 2005 Issues? [jons1]
Aug 13, 2005 (4:51 am)
Thank you very much to all who responded with their insights on Land Rover in general and the Freelander in particular. Like a few other recent posters, I've decided against getting one. I feel for all those who've gone through the kinds of problems I've read about here. If it's any consolation--and I'm sure it won't be much--sharing your experiences is most likely saving several others (including me) from having to suffer the same kind of aggravation. So, thank you.
#867 of 1536 Edmunds and really bad vehicles...
Aug 15, 2005 (4:33 pm)
Do edmunds or other real car review sites post articles on really bad vehicles? This freelander forum is full of nightmare stories from almost everyone who posted?
While it could seem like brand bashing...it would be refreshing to see something like...This vehicle has had major problems and potential buyers should review service contracts, etc in the pros/cons section.
Pros Excellent on-road handling for an SUV, permanent all-wheel drive, still capable off-road.
Cons Expensive for a compact SUV, tight on cargo space, V6 engine on the weak side, no side airbags, SE3's hard top is hard to install.
Even something as light-handed as (insert website here) cannot endorse this vehicle due to problems reported? Consumer reports got a lot of flack for negative press, however the truth you can uncover in forums is never accurately represented in articles.
#868 of 1536 Re: Edmunds and really bad vehicles... [sbcooke]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 15, 2005 (7:45 pm)
For another data point besides the editorial side here and the forums, check out the Consumer Reviews and Ratings. There's a link at the top of the discussion with 22 current reviews listed.
#869 of 1536 re: consumer rating
Aug 16, 2005 (6:30 pm)
Interesting...it reads like people really like its design and feature set...however the overall negativity doesn't seem equal to what has been in this forum.
For the record I don't own one, but like the concept and have read this forum since inception...I have steered many people I know away from the vehicle based on what I read here.
#870 of 1536 re: consumer rating [sbcooke]
Aug 16, 2005 (8:44 pm)
and have read this forum since inception
And, for the record, you just passed your 6th anniversary with edmunds.com 3 days ago. Congrats!
Aug 17, 2005 (5:55 am)
6 years older.
#872 of 1536 @004 Freelander
Aug 18, 2005 (8:43 pm)
Just for the record and to keep things a bit more balanced here, I have a 2004 HSE that I have been very pleased with. Have about 15000 on the odometer with only a problem with the outside temp. gauge to report. A bit underpowered but not bad if you shift for yourself. Very solidly built - feels like it's been "moulded" out of a single block of steel. Spent some time in Utah on washboard back roads and there wasn't a rattle or squeak once back on the pavement. Drove a friend's new Forester recently, good pick-up from the engine but the whole package felt pretty "thin". Got into a little fenderbender with a woman who pulled out of a driveway into my path - totalled her Toyota Corolla with minimal damage to the Freelander. Get close to 30 mpg (25 US) on the highway. As long as the reliability holds, it's a keeper. Ciao, B.
#873 of 1536 2004 Freelander - My experience
Aug 21, 2005 (2:27 pm)
I have had a 2004 Freelander for 18 months and 20k miles. Prior to my purchase, I was concerned about all of the horror stories, but felt a bit assured due to the warranty. I've been very pleased with my Freelander. Fortunately (knock on wood) I have had only very minor problems (loose rear window and weak windshield washer jet) both problems were fixed under warranty. It goes great through snow, and I've had it off road once where it was a lot of fun. The car is very solid with no rattles at all. It drives great on road and has very tight ride for a SUV. It could use some extra horses, but the manual/sport shift mode gives you enough control to optimize the power band. I realize there are a lot of real horror stories out there, but there are many satisifed owners too.