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Land Rover Freelander, SUV
#1486 of 1535 Re: Freelander 04 For Sale or For Target Practice [gdseller]
Jul 21, 2009 (9:35 am)
I know exactly how you and your wife feel. I owned a 2004 Freelander and loved it for about the first year. Then, sudden disaster. Coolant leaking, fumes coming through the heater... my local Land Rover dealer was basically unresponsive, aside from stating that the vehicle would need a total engine replacement. I still owed $13,000.00! Apparently, from what I've read, most Land Rover dealers are uncooperative and scriptedly in denial. Please check out this web site for the name of an attorney who may be able to help you. He recently worked with me and successfully resolved my situation.
This is happening to too many Freelander owners to be merely coincidental (as other posts here have insinuated). Good luck!
#1487 of 1535 Re: Freelander 04 For Sale or For Target Practice [itsoverrover]
Jul 21, 2009 (10:20 am)
Thanks! I have given up hope on the vehicle and am in the process of minimizing my losses. Maybe I can at least get some of my money back.
I actually thought about getting a new LR2 but have completely soured on the entire Land Rover line. It is sad that such a great name has been reduced to this.
#1488 of 1535 Re: Freelander 04 For Sale or For Target Practice [gdseller]
Jul 21, 2009 (12:50 pm)
Yeah, don't get an LR2. I had a 1999 Discovery II that had problems, and in good faith, "upgraded" to a 2004 Freelander because it "fixed" many of the problems associated with the Discovery. When my Freelander started tanking, they assured me that the LR2 "fixed" the problems with the Freelander. Fool me once...
Do what I did and just trade it in for a dependable car. I lost tons of money, but at least it stopped the bleeding. I sleep better now to boot!
#1490 of 1535 land rover freelander
Jul 30, 2009 (10:52 pm)
I don' t know why it took me so long to post my freelander tale. I bought my 2005 se in feb 2007. The problems started almost immediately with the "service engine soon" light coming on. This happened almost immediately and continued about 2-3 times per month with always the same results-fault codes, and near undriveability. Throw in along the way constant overheating which i think got the thermostat
replaced and fan belt, too. Constant squeaking of front brakes and a new set at around 15-16K miles, these were replaced once more with no improvement. The truck only had 10K+ miles on her when i bought it, as I think it was a previous service loaner. Also going on it was the sunroof, again replaced. Issues with the tranny, serviced. Then finally the big one-the dealer told me that my engine was gone and that it would have to be replaced. They held on to it for 2 months and still no engine. After over 3+ months in a rental, at their expense, they finally gave me one of their service loaners, brand new LR2. I liked that truck so much that I was able to swing the payment on one. I guess that I got lucky because the dealer was willing to give me $14K for my Freelander, which was still sitting on their lot waiting for an engine. I ended up eating about $2500 on the deal for the LR2 but it was probably the best alternative at the time for a new vehicle, which I bought about 1 year later in Feb 2008. That truck sat for almost 5 months before an engine was found for it. Of course instead of sending the car to auction, it was put back on their lot for resale, it only had about 21K miles on it. They did find someone else to buy this truck because I have seen it around while driving and in for repairs when my LR2 is in for service. I really love my truck and so far have been pretty fortunate as it is mostly Volvo and not Tata on the inside. I was just glad to finally be rid of that truck.
Sep 07, 2009 (1:06 pm)
My wife had purchased a slightly used FL in 2006. Started idling rough so we took it in for some reprogramming recall. Right after that, we started noticing grinding from the rear end (has 50k miles on it). Dealer said 'might just be suchnsuch bearing....if it's gone long enough, may need a new drive shaft which would be $3,000' Won't know until we get it apart. Having been a mechanic previously, and knowing that there were TSB's released indicating shitty engineering in that specific area of the Freelander, I told her via phone that they can go get *$&%ed. Sounds more like the rear diff to me anyway. I would love to see a driveshaft worth 1500 let alone 3k. The part is a few hundred dollars. The bearing in question simply supports the drive shaft, and it is, in fact, worn, but does not explain the rough grinding noise that only heavy gears stripping can make and only whist turning right. 1 week after that she started losing coolant slowly and her temp gauge would get erratic. replace lost coolant, temp was fine. 1 week after that, engine started tapping when cold. Sounded like tappets in the top end and would go away after warmup. Doesn't go away now, which isn't good.. Land Rover says without the dealer scheduled maint visits they were not going to help. The vehicle was maintained elsewhere and we have the docs. Sorry, but not getting the intake components soaked and cleaned at a specified interval has no impact whatsoever on the crankcase or the cooling system nor does it change shitty design and engineering. We have stopped the payments on this car. We still owe 12k on the loan and refuse to dumped 10k into repairs when it is just going to happen again.
#1494 of 1535 Our last letter to LRNA sent today.
Sep 07, 2009 (1:09 pm)
Hi. I received no help whatsoever from Land Rover. I see that this vehicle was of very poor design and that I am one of many. I also see that I am starting to experience the engine noise issue that happens right before engine failure (You know, the one I just (today) found splattered all over the internet regarding this KV6). I still owe a 5 digit amount on this fraud of a vehicle, which you do not hold yourselves accountable for, so I will be contacting the NTSB, BBB, The FTC, AG of New York State, the local dealership (to alert them of my campaign which will alert the area as to how well Land Rover stands by its product)... and what other organizations my contacts can suggest to me regarding this issue. While it is still a personal burden for me to bear this undeserved punishment, owing thousands on a vehicle that I can't even sell due to poor engineering, this is now also a matter of general principle, if your company can even comprehend such things.
If you had any integrity whatsoever, you would furnish me a similarly used better designed LR model as a swap, I won't be holding my breath.
#1495 of 1535 landrover freelander
Sep 14, 2009 (7:29 pm)
Howard Gutman,Esq. Flanders, NJ. has been handling cases in NJ. I just gave him a complete repair packaged for my 2003 Freelander,been in shop 14 times in 28 months. He's not Class Action, but will handle your claim at no charge. I don't think he's as enthusiastic a representative as this forum apparently needs. I am folowing another lead to representation and I'll get back to the forum with that information if it shows promise. Although, Class Action typically lessen's the individual payout regardless of variances. No matter we need to be heard. Maybe Washington? Secretary of Commerce?