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#1274 of 1535 Ref: Help on a 2002 freelander se edition
Apr 17, 2008 (6:33 am)
Sell the thing before your engine & transmission goes! I am still in court over my 2002 Freelander. Transmission gone at 45,000 & engine blew at 52,000. If you are not the original owner check the serial numbers on your engine. Land Rover dealers do not report major problems to Car Facts on purpose, so 2nd owners never know problems of the first owner. If the engine does go, the dealership is instructed to lie about the cause.
Apr 17, 2008 (6:40 am)
im the second owner vehicle but here in charlotte nc the dealer ship had taken care of it on the 36,000 mile warranty booklet inside the glove box now i have on 48,510 miles on it right now i was just curious on what needed to do on what causes the oxygen senors being affected when i already changed them let me know on some insights thanks alot????
#1276 of 1535 Re: Help on a 2002 freelander se edition [freelander22]
Apr 17, 2008 (8:42 am)
Not to question what codes the mechanic identified, but that check engine light does come on for alot more than just that issue (this vehicle is poorly designed so diagnosing the real issue is often through the symptoms that the sensors notice), that if you were experiencing the Head Gasket Failure issue could trip the sensor as the burning coolant certainly will fault the engine. I dont know why the oxygen sensor would be the standalone issue.
At $100 or more for them to do their computer-diagnosis, you would be strongly advised to trade in the vehicle while you still can. You should be able to reset the check engine light error by removing the batter connection for 15 minutes and then reconnecting (I was told this by the mechanic). That will force a reset of the check engine light and any other faults. Of course if they are still occuring, you will just have to either trade it in "as is" or you would be guessing what else was causing the fault.
Apr 17, 2008 (11:55 am)
OMG! I have a 2003 Freelander SE with the exact same engine problem at 54000 miles. It started with the coolant problem and overheating, they kept sending me away with a supposed fix but it never fixed the problem - perhaps they were trying to wait until my extended warranty expires in August?! Thank goodness I pestered them until they looked into it - now it won't cost me thousands!
Have had problems with the sun roof and windows not working, brake lights have gone out numerous times, alignment seems always to be a bit off so my tires wear wrong, all the plastic pieces have broken (center compartment between driver and passenger, jack compartment in back)
Anyone else notice that the breaks wear out unusually quickly and cost about 5 times that of other vehicles?? And that you can't get out of the dealership under 2K every time you take it in?
This is insane, I am trading it in for a RAV4 as soon as they replace the engine!
Nice to know I am not alone - thought I bought a lemon, but sounds like the entire freelander population is lemonized!
#1278 of 1535 Re: WOW! [orca08]
Apr 17, 2008 (12:09 pm)
Yes, trade it in as soon as they replace the engine, that the new engine will likely be a refurbished engine (they arent producing any more of these crappy engines any longer). I also had a rear window regulator break (cost $475 to replace/fix), and had the same sun roof mechanism fail (but I just kept it closed for the last 2 yrs).
The engine/Head Gasket Issue is the repair that is the most critical and terminal condition for the vehicle. The dealers mechanics will never fix the gasket, so they will only offer the engine replacement, but either repair will cost you more than the SUV is worth.
And yes, the brake pads and then rotors wear out very quickly, because of the weight of the vehicle (the dealer says). I personally think it has more to do with the fact that there are 2 disc front brakes and 2 drum rear brakes on the vehicle, hence the wear and weight all goes to the front of the vehicle. Another poor design flaw issue, and I was told the drum brakes were there to better allow the off-roading. Yeah, who ever could off road these things, they fall apart on the driveway!
You will notice when you goto trade it in exactly how worthless the vehcile/blue book value is. No one wants these SUV's, rightly so, as issues like this make the word lemon seem like we are being too nice in the description. I call these vehicles Fraudulently Misrepresented Stress Causing Money Wasting PIles of Steel and Bolts.
#1279 of 1535 Re: WOW! [sripley]
Apr 17, 2008 (12:19 pm)
HA! regarding the brakes, they told me that the reason they wear out so fast is that "Americans use them much more than Brits. In the UK, they down shift to stop."
Not sure how to downshift to stop in an automatic...but whatever...
Good thing the "new" engine will only cost me $100 since it is still under warranty, but lord only knows how long it will be in the shop waiting for the new engine to arrive, good thing they give me a rental or I would be flipping out! I had a brake line issue that took weeks to even get the part in! Oh Joy!
"Yeah, who ever could off road these things, they fall apart on the driveway! ...
I call these vehicles Fraudulently Misrepresented Stress Causing Money Wasting PIles of Steel and Bolts." ROFLMAO!
Apr 17, 2008 (12:28 pm)
Oh Yeah! And my wipers won't work if it gets below 32 degrees out until the car warms up - it's all a crying shame, really, since it's a blast to drive!
I sorta have a love hate relationship with mine at this point...
Apr 17, 2008 (6:01 pm)
my mechanic told me that since i changed my oxygen sensor in which im the second owner of my 2002 freelander se edition he found out that my air filter was never changed out on a 48,500 miles so he told me that since no air filter is changed out since its first bought it could be not geting enough air through the air filter which is acting up on the oxygen sensor so he changed air filter for me and reseted my bank 1 front oxygen code he told me to drive it for about 60 to 70 miles to see if thats the problem if check engine light kicks on means a different issue well see.
#1282 of 1535 SEND IN A COMPLAINT www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
Apr 24, 2008 (12:11 pm)
I just filed a complaint with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. They told me that they only have 29 complaints and if there were more than they could require Land Rover to have a recall.
We have a 2003 Freelander with 37,000 miles that has a problem too with the head gasket failure. The engine is shot, they can't get a replacement and if they could our car is over 4 years old it is not under warranty. We lodged a complaint March 08 to the Land Rover company and they said that they can't get a new engine and they need to take care of the cars that are under warranty first. And even if they could get a new engine it will cost us as we are out of warranty. It makes no sense that they will not take responsibility for something like a defective engine and have all the freelander with this problem and get away with this type of negligence.
Thank God no one got hurt driving this car.
How can we use this forum to get more complaints filed with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
If that could be figured out then Land Rover would be forced to recall these car engines. EVERY ONE LODGE A COMPLAINT
Do you have any ideas how to get a large group to contact the NHTSA?
#1283 of 1535 COMPLAINT www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
Apr 24, 2008 (1:43 pm)
I filed complaint today, thanks for the link/info. I was told by an attorney that if I incurred all the costs for a new engine, he could sue Land Rover/Dealer for the costs, but wasnt worth it, why spend the money on a new engine when the same defect will happen, if you can even get a new engine.
I hope enough complaints foster some sort of action against the company. Who knows..