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#6 of 25 Civic Type R!!! by sarahvtec

Apr 25, 2001 (12:55 pm)

The coolest hatch back in the world has got to be the Honda Civic Type R. Introduced in Japan in 1998, the Civic Type R has remained at the TOP of its game. Pumping out an amazing 185HP from a mere 1.6L VTEC engine! Now that Honda has introduced the i-VTEC system, the 2002 Civic Type R produces 200HP from a 2Liter engine. I guess "Amazing but true" is correct. Sadly, the U.S. and Canada will NOT be seeing the Civic Type R so we can only dream of it's sheer power...

#7 of 25 What exactly is the big deal about the Type R? by bill_1

Apr 27, 2001 (7:11 am)

I mean I think it is great that Honda can deliver enthusiast oriented versions of its products (The SI and the Type R) but if power is what you lust for, then why limit yourself to Honda? There are plenty of alternatives out there. Heck I bet the Type R would have cost as much as the 2002 GTI VR6 would be anyway and that car will give you tons of torque on top of the 201 HP it will deliver.

#8 of 25 I think Acura missed, big time by denniswade

Apr 27, 2001 (10:16 pm)

with the RSX. It is unexciting and numbingly conservative, as is the current Prelude. As a matter of fact, the Prelude is better, because it is elegant and subtly powerful; the RSX is just dull.

They really should have hit one out of the park, considering they're following the Celica and Eclipse. What in the world is happening over there???

#9 of 25 by mikecc

Apr 28, 2001 (5:07 pm)

Anybody know what the ford SHOgun was? It was a festiva souped up with a mid mounted sho engine with rear wheel drive and a special body kit. It was capable of 0-60 in 4.6 and a 1/4 mile in under 13. There were only 9 produced.

#10 of 25 As I recall by denniswade

Apr 28, 2001 (6:26 pm)

Car and Driver did an article on the car, and I don't believe the numbers were that good. additionally, the car was fairly expensive, which helps explain why the idea didn't take off.

#11 of 25 by mikecc

Apr 28, 2001 (10:21 pm)

Yeah, the price of the shogun in 1990 was about 45,000. a little steep. The times for the shogun that i read ranged from 4.6-5.3 for 0-60. so i'm not quite sure what it was exactly.

#12 of 25 bill_1 by sarahvtec

Apr 29, 2001 (2:44 pm)

Why stick with Honda, simple..I'm a Honda enthusiast! Sure, if HP was all I was interested in then a more exotic car would top my list. Unfortunately, I'm not in that financial category yet so Honda will have to do. It just upsets me that car manufactuers can produce some of the most awesome vehicles in the world but limit them to speficic markets. (Conspiracy) Why not let the most powerful country in the world have access to the most powerful cars in the world?

#13 of 25 I am not talking about exotics though Sarahvtec by bill_1

Apr 30, 2001 (7:10 am)

My point is that the Type-R would not be any cheaper than many of its competitors like the Golf GTI Vr6 and the Impreza WRX. I mean it makes little sense to me to stick with Honda if Honda is not delivering what you want in a car when there are others that do. There is no conspiracy amongst foreign countries to deny the US certain products... rather they are trying to protect other products. Honda reasons that the Civic Type-R would be in an awkward place in the American Market; For the price of the Type-R you could well get yourself into a V-8 Mustang, WRX or a GTI. At the same time, sales of the Type-R would erode sales of the RSX.

#14 of 25 RE: bill_1 by sarahvtec

May 01, 2001 (5:48 pm)

At $19-21K the Civic Type R would be cheaper than the competition. Granted, that is the going price in the UK but if American Honda can do the same there would be little problem selling it here. Also, it would give the competition a run for its money! (unlike the 2002 Si) At least give us the option of ordering one... You bring up some very good points that the Civic Type R would erode sales from the RSX and why stick with Honda if they are NOT delivering what I want. I dunno how to answer that. But I do know that if Honda doesn't get their act together soon I'm about to forsake them. My tastes in vehicles are changing. In fact, I can hear the luxury market calling my name... *scary*

#15 of 25 Consider the... by starrow68

Jun 02, 2001 (8:15 pm)

Vette! More expensive than what is being discussed but the coupe is a hatchback and base sticker of 41k is not too bad for 350hp. Also from my perspective it fit's someone 6' 3" which many I've tried don't, still looking.

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