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#16 of 25 look at by only1harry

Jun 05, 2001 (2:11 pm)

a used Integra Type-R, '97-98 (off-white only) or a '00-01 model if you like it in black or yellow (I don't). Try and test drive one and take it up to 8500 RPM. It will be one of the most memorable test drives you 've had..
The Integra Type-R will still outhandle the RSX and will remain just as fast or faster due to its lightweight. The Type-R is still one of the best performing hatchbacks out there in all categories, handling, braking & acceleration.
Also you can look at the SCCA results of the last 3-4 years in SoloII (autocross) racing National Championships. A Type-R wins every year and the top 10-20 cars are mostly Type-Rs in the G Stock class. The VW VR6s and Celica GTS's which are in the same class, are way down at the bottom. Auto-x racing is mainly a handling course but speed and braking matter a lot too. The WRX is now in the same class. The 5-6 WRX's I 've seen so far in 3 auto-x events that I participated in, did not impress me at all, nor did they anyone else. The WRX is way overated. It's heavy, it's a sedan, and it can in no way stand up to the Type-R in agility. It has tons of body roll and in stock form, will never take a G Stock championship. This is why they didn't put it in A stock where it actually belongs along with the 220hp Audi TT and the like.

#17 of 25 Why stick with Honda if they don't give me what I want? by diploid

Jul 11, 2001 (4:44 pm)

Well, if you want 220hp(Acura RSX Type-R) from a 4-cylinder and Honda won't bring it over here...who else out there can offer such a powerful little engine? The only other competitor that comes close is VW. You get higher mileage with the diesel engine, but it's going to cost you.

#18 of 25 C230 Coupe by suprchrgd

Jul 27, 2001 (7:24 am)

Mercedes Benz has a sweet little hatchback. It not quite as fast as the type S or a WRX but its a supercharged 4cyl with close to 200 horses. And yeah its under 30k with nice options. Only drawback is that if you haven't put down a deposit on one already... good luck getting one anytime soon.

#19 of 25 Acura RSX type S is the best value period. by tomjava

Jul 27, 2001 (9:18 am)

Performance, handling, and comfort are impressive. Performance is incredible for $23K car, 0-60 mph is only 6.1 seconds (the same as BMW 330I).
 
Good Luck.

#20 of 25 Hi Folks- For those interested..., by pocahontas

Jul 27, 2001 (11:01 am)

here's a direct link to our new Mercedes-Benz C230 Vs Acura RSX discussion. Thanks for your particiption!

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#21 of 25 Hi Folks- by pocahontas

Aug 09, 2001 (11:14 am)

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#22 of 25 250 HP Golf AWD by kartez

Aug 19, 2001 (11:29 am)

I read on AutoExpress (UK) about an AWD 250hp NA Golf(GTI). I hope they bring it over here.
 
If performance is the only consideration Acura Type R is at the top of the heap. If you add comfort to the picture VW win hands down.

#23 of 25 Audi S3 .......Please by socal007

Aug 20, 2001 (2:13 pm)

How about a US delivery.....
When will they make it here ????

#24 of 25 FWD Performance Cars: An Oxymoron by rockribbed

Aug 22, 2001 (9:32 am)

Every body is talking about hot hatchbacks but are using the Honda/Acura and VW as the bench mark, when in fact a FWD performance car is an Oxymoron. The Subaru WRX and the Audi are barely in the fold (Audi 50-50 torque split and Subie a little better with 45-55). When you try to put that much power to the ground with a FWD vehicle, weight transfer unloads the front wheels inducing wheel spin (which looks cool) and loss of steering control.
 
Since the AutoUnions (Audi) of the '30's there has never been a purpose built racing car with front wheel drive. (Now, I'm not talking about production cars that have fwd that are raced in sanctioned events, ie SCCA classes) The reason is that FWD is not the most efficient way to operate a high performance vehicle.
 
The BMW Z3 coupe (IMHO, one of the ugliest cars available, but still a candidate), the MB C230, and the Corvette are the only true high performance hatchbacks for sale in the U>S>

#25 of 25 by revka

Nov 26, 2001 (9:04 pm)

Since this discussion has been inactive for quite some time, it's going to be closed. Let's continue this subject in our HOT HATCHBACKS discussion.
 
If you come across this discussion and would like to have it re-opened, please send me an email.
 
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