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#3269 of 3293 Re: 2004 Matrix, buy it? [nippononly] by val61sf Mar 30, 2009 (5:27 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Feb 25, 2009 1:23 pm) When folks mention how slow (DOG slow) ...the automatic pre-2009 Matrix is, I'm curious... would someone going from an Echo notice any difference? I can't imagine that the Matrix would be slower but thought it worth asking... My Echo does get me around really good ...it takes a bit to get up to speed but once I'm there, I do tend to fly down the road. I've been considering making the change for the past 3 years or so but the Echo keeps chugging along and I've been reluctant to take on a car note plus the extra funds needed for a car that won't get as good a gas milieage as my Echo. Style wise, i really prefer the Matrix to getting the Prius even with it's better gas mileage... Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 31, 2009 8:07 am)
#3270 of 3293 Re: 2004 Matrix, buy it? [val61sf] by nippononly Mar 31, 2009 (8:07 am)
Replying to: val61sf (Mar 30, 2009 5:27 am) Yes, you will notice a difference going from an Echo to an automatic 1.8L Matrix. I also own both cars. Both are engines with a lot of room on the tach to wind-up, to good effect if you do so, and the automatic in the Matrix won't allow you to wind it up before upshifting, even if you have it floored.   And with the substantial amount of extra weight the Matrix has vs the Echo, passing on the highway is particularly bad. I don't really consider myself a speed demon, but I would never have a Matrix with the automatic and the 1.8 - it was the reason I sold the one I DID have back in 2002 and 2003. For me, the 5-speed is a must.   Of course, you can now get the Matrix with the Camry 2.4, and with THAT engine it is probably a lot less important if you have a manual or an automatic.
#3271 of 3293 2009 barely used Matrix, good deal? by glitch1 May 31, 2009 (8:22 am)
Locally, there is dealer certified '09 Matrix S that was previously company leased. It has a moonroof (can't remember if there is any other significant options on it). It only has just shy of 4000 miles on it, and was never in an accident or had any repair on it.   It's going for $16K (and may be able to negotiate a bit). It also has an upgraded powertrain warranty (7 year total, 6 year remaining), and the standard 3-year bumper to bumper (with 2 years remaining). Also a 3-month comprehensive warranty from the day I buy it. I test drove it and it looks and feels good.   It was company leased for a total of 9 months and was probably one of the first '09 vehicles to come out since it was purchased/leased mid-June of '08.   I was planning to take my time on a car purchase, but this looks like a good enough deal that I feel I should spring for it! Anyone have any thoughts on whether this is a good deal? Thanks!
#3272 of 3293 Re: webguyster [iwphill] by jeremydr Jun 09, 2009 (10:26 am)
Replying to: iwphill (Jul 28, 2002 6:31 am) 1500 pounds... does that apply to the 04' XR 4wd model?
#3273 of 3293 Re: Tire replacement costs for 09 Matrix S [lapierbb] by microrepair Jun 13, 2009 (8:55 am)
Replying to: lapierbb (Mar 27, 2009 7:49 am) I guess this depends on which model and tire size you have as well as how much you want to spend on tires. My '03 XR 2WD came with Continental tires which were completely worn out on the front in 16K miles. I made the mistake of buying the same tire as a replacement and got the same life again. No, I don't drive it like a race car; in fact, most of the miles are put on by my wife. The Continentals aren't cheap so I then bought a pair of Avon tires which did a little better; approx. 22K miles. I now have a pair of Hankook tires on it which appear to be wearing better than the others. And they were the cheapest so far. For this model, there are a number of choices so the price you pay is what you want to pay..   But I'm still ticked off at all the rest of the owners out there getting 30-35 mpg. We bought this car to get that kind of mileage but the best we ever got was about 28 mpg on a 150 mile highway trip.. And yes, I took it back to the dealer when a year old and they claimed it was delivering 31 mpg... BS...!! Until a year ago I had a Mercedes E class V6 that was giving me better mileage...!!! I won't buy another one of these even though it's been reliable.. Not at today's gas prices..
#3274 of 3293 Big difference? by laserblue Jul 30, 2009 (10:05 am)
Can't decide between the 1.8L and the 2.4L engines.   Is there a big difference in performance?   Is the 26 h/p difference between both engines really matters?   There's a big difference in the price between "base Matrix" and "Matrix XR".   I was thinking of a "Base Matrix" with the "Touring Package" looks well equipped but only with that 1.8L engine.   Help! Replies to this message: techtrooper (Jul 30, 2009 10:23 am)
#3275 of 3293 Re: Big difference? [laserblue] by techtrooper Jul 30, 2009 (10:23 am)
Replying to: laserblue (Jul 30, 2009 10:05 am) I have a 2006 4wd with 1.8 engine. The biggest trouble is that it doesn't accelerate that well. It's not hp, but the torque that does that.   So, you'll be able to accelerate 0-60 a second faster or something. A second is a lot in an emergency situation, but otherwise, you'll just have worse mileage...
#3276 of 3293 Catalytic Converter by q_ball Aug 03, 2009 (3:59 pm)
I changed the converter on my 2003 matrix and I am still getting a code for low threshold. How can I solve this problem?   Code is p0420 Replies to this message: circuitsmith (Aug 04, 2009 7:04 am) scubamunda (Oct 13, 2009 6:54 pm)
#3277 of 3293 Re: Catalytic Converter [q_ball] by circuitsmith Aug 04, 2009 (7:04 am)
Replying to: q_ball (Aug 03, 2009 3:59 pm) P0420 does not say directly that the converter is bad. It only says there's a problem in that part of the system. You need to look at the signals coming from the O2 sensors. It could be an exhaust leak or bad O2 sensor.
#3278 of 3293 Matrix tire question by laserblue Aug 15, 2009 (5:25 pm)
Why don't all the Matrix come with the same size of tires?   What are the advantages of getting the 17 inches tires option rather than the 16 inches?

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