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#3263 of 3291 Re: WHAT TO DO? [bellatogo02] by nippononly Mar 19, 2009 (10:59 am)
Replying to: bellatogo02 (Mar 18, 2009 5:48 pm) Having had both, I have to say you really need the manual to wring all the power out of the engine in the pre-'09s. The automatic is dog-slow.   I believe the manual transmission problem only extended through the '03 and '04 model years.   As far as is a Matrix a good thing, I can only say "good" will vary widely from person to person, right?   For me it was the best balance available at the time (bought mine 1/07) of utility, price, fuel economy, and reliability. It's also fairly peppy and moderately fun to drive. Its pretty strong in the areas I just mentioned. Four adults can travel in full comfort in this car, the back seat is surprisingly large. The stuff you can fit in it is voluminous with the back seat down.   Edit...I saw your larger post on the "pre-purchase research" board, and let me add that the Matrix is a great car for camping, for yourself or a couple, plenty of space to put your stuff in back.   And no Toyota built today is the equal of your 1990 Camry, but I do think you will get 150K miles out of it without much trouble. Good luck! Replies to this message: bellatogo02 (Mar 19, 2009 9:01 pm) nippononly (Mar 20, 2009 9:36 pm)
#3264 of 3291 Re: WHAT TO DO? [nippononly] by bellatogo02 Mar 19, 2009 (9:01 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Mar 19, 2009 10:59 am) Thank you very much for the advice. I really appreciate it. I am going for a manual tranny.   I'm having a hard time finding and Xr with manual tranny and a sunroof. The search continues.   I am also accepting the fact that no car will be my Camry or my husband's 1995 Toyota Pickup that has 215,000 miles on it and still going strong (I've tried to kill this pickup and it won't die).   Again, thank you for your advice! Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 20, 2009 9:36 pm)
#3265 of 3291 Re: WHAT TO DO? [bellatogo02] by nippononly Mar 20, 2009 (9:36 pm)
Replying to: bellatogo02 (Mar 19, 2009 9:01 pm) If you're in the Bay Area, my local dealer in Novato has one. It's an '05, which I know is slightly older than you are looking for, but it IS an XR with a stick and moonroof. It has 44K miles.   They also have an '06 XRS (with the Celica GTS engine) with a 6-speed and 27K miles that I am halfway thinking of picking up. I always liked the much tighter handling of the XRS, but by the time I got around to buying (2007) they had dropped the XRS trim.
#3266 of 3291 Tire replacement costs for 09 Matrix S by lapierbb Mar 27, 2009 (7:49 am)
I am just curious if anyone knows how much tires cost for the Matrix. We are getting out of a 2000 Grand Am where we only had one real choice for tires and they were way to expensive. We do not want to make that mistake again. I will appreciate any help that I can get on this subject. Thanks!! Replies to this message: microrepair (Jun 13, 2009 8:55 am)
#3267 of 3291 Re: Cargo capacity? [nippononly] by doyon Mar 29, 2009 (11:24 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Feb 26, 2009 8:00 am) venn: when I was shopping for my 2009 Matrix, I found that the XRS and perhaps the S models had front seats folded flat. The standard model's front seat did not. All the Matrixes regardless of model had a sticker (not the one listing features and price) touting the 60 cu. ft of storage. In short, if your front seat folds flat and you want to count that area, 60 cf otherwise 49 cf. greg Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 29, 2009 12:40 pm)
#3268 of 3291 Re: Cargo capacity? [doyon] by nippononly Mar 29, 2009 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: doyon (Mar 29, 2009 11:24 am) It's funny, because my Matrix has that feature too, and in 2-1/2 years I have never once had occasion to use it. I wonder if I ever will.
#3269 of 3291 Re: 2004 Matrix, buy it? [nippononly] by val61sf Mar 30, 2009 (5:27 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Feb 25, 2009 1:23 pm) When folks mention how slow (DOG slow) ...the automatic pre-2009 Matrix is, I'm curious... would someone going from an Echo notice any difference? I can't imagine that the Matrix would be slower but thought it worth asking... My Echo does get me around really good ...it takes a bit to get up to speed but once I'm there, I do tend to fly down the road. I've been considering making the change for the past 3 years or so but the Echo keeps chugging along and I've been reluctant to take on a car note plus the extra funds needed for a car that won't get as good a gas milieage as my Echo. Style wise, i really prefer the Matrix to getting the Prius even with it's better gas mileage... Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 31, 2009 8:07 am)
#3270 of 3291 Re: 2004 Matrix, buy it? [val61sf] by nippononly Mar 31, 2009 (8:07 am)
Replying to: val61sf (Mar 30, 2009 5:27 am) Yes, you will notice a difference going from an Echo to an automatic 1.8L Matrix. I also own both cars. Both are engines with a lot of room on the tach to wind-up, to good effect if you do so, and the automatic in the Matrix won't allow you to wind it up before upshifting, even if you have it floored.   And with the substantial amount of extra weight the Matrix has vs the Echo, passing on the highway is particularly bad. I don't really consider myself a speed demon, but I would never have a Matrix with the automatic and the 1.8 - it was the reason I sold the one I DID have back in 2002 and 2003. For me, the 5-speed is a must.   Of course, you can now get the Matrix with the Camry 2.4, and with THAT engine it is probably a lot less important if you have a manual or an automatic.
#3271 of 3291 2009 barely used Matrix, good deal? by glitch1 May 31, 2009 (8:22 am)
Locally, there is dealer certified '09 Matrix S that was previously company leased. It has a moonroof (can't remember if there is any other significant options on it). It only has just shy of 4000 miles on it, and was never in an accident or had any repair on it.   It's going for $16K (and may be able to negotiate a bit). It also has an upgraded powertrain warranty (7 year total, 6 year remaining), and the standard 3-year bumper to bumper (with 2 years remaining). Also a 3-month comprehensive warranty from the day I buy it. I test drove it and it looks and feels good.   It was company leased for a total of 9 months and was probably one of the first '09 vehicles to come out since it was purchased/leased mid-June of '08.   I was planning to take my time on a car purchase, but this looks like a good enough deal that I feel I should spring for it! Anyone have any thoughts on whether this is a good deal? Thanks!
#3272 of 3291 Re: webguyster [iwphill] by jeremydr Jun 09, 2009 (10:26 am)
Replying to: iwphill (Jul 28, 2002 6:31 am) 1500 pounds... does that apply to the 04' XR 4wd model?

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