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Toyota Matrix, Wagon
#3005 of 3315 Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [johnc19]
Feb 14, 2006 (9:57 pm)
I must congratulate on your lucky Matrix. I also read someone's matrix could get 38mpg on highway. Mine is 2004 base 2WD with 19K miles now. Today I got a pathetic 26.4mpg for a 350 miles highway only trip. I know I am not alone, so I am not sure why people are telling vastly different stories. But, I will ask the guys at toyota to take a look at it. Most likely, they will do nothing about it.
My lowest mileage is 18mpg, for a normal local only driving.
Feb 15, 2006 (4:13 pm)
Were all 350 miles on the highway? What speed were you going? How many psi in the tires? Were there hills? What transmission do you have? etc.
#3007 of 3315 Finally some info on the '08 Matrix
Feb 16, 2006 (8:04 am)
Expect a short carryover '07 model year, with the following changes applying to a early release '08.
2007 major model change.
- 2.4L (2AZ-FE)
Sequential Multiport Electronic Fuel Injection
Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle [ULEV]
Compression Ratio - 9.6:1
Horsepower (kW) - 157 (119) 5700 rpm
Torque (N.m) - 163 lb.ft. (221) 4000 rpm
- available all wheel drive (new one) 5 speed tranny
- solid hatch door (no more separate opening glass)
- XRS will be discontinued
These are confirmed for the major model change in 2007 either for the 2007 model or early release 2008 depending on how the new Woodstock plant launch goes.
With the XRS being discontinued, this means that the GT Vibe is being cancelled. Also the AWD Vibe is being cancelled.
Feb 16, 2006 (11:53 am)
Sounds like I better hurry up and get one before they "improve" it with a thirstier and heavier engine.
#3009 of 3315 Re: Finally some info on the '08 Matrix [tommyg12]
Feb 17, 2006 (2:51 pm)
It's too bad they are discontinuing the separate opening glass on the hatch. The cargo area is really quite small. When I traveled with 2 teenagers it was packed to the brim. The separate glass opening made it easier to unload. If I opened the entire hatch, things tended to fall out before I was ready to catch them!
#3010 of 3315 Re: Finally some info on the '08 Matrix [herzogtum71]
Feb 18, 2006 (8:06 pm)
I agree completely. It is very nice to have the choice of opening the glass or the entire hatch. Especially having a hatch button on the key fob.
#3011 of 3315 Re: Finally some info on the '08 Matrix [tommyg12]
Feb 20, 2006 (11:29 am)
I'm seriously considering buying the Matrix, but not for 8-12 months. I'd like the XR auto, with anti-lock brakes.
What's the difference between the newer models and the existing: Are there more engine power, change in mpg, any cosmetics improvements?
I've read the compliants about weak heat/AC, and rattling...these problems didn't give me a warm and fussy feeling to just go out and get it.
#3012 of 3315 Re: Finally some info on the '08 Matrix [mmyk72]
Feb 20, 2006 (12:20 pm)
I highly recommand you to wait and test. The change from 1.8L to 2.4L may turn out to be a huge improvement. From my own experience, the AC is weak, but it will cool down the cabin. It just takes a longer time. You can hear the rattle at low speed, but once on highway, you cann't hear it anymore because it will be overpowered by other noises. Engine noise, wind noise and tire noise, plus a floaty ride are traits that unmistakenly put it in a decidely lower level below camry. I imagine the 2.4L engine will lower the engine noise and RPM significantly to improve comfort factor. Gas mileage may increase as well, as a small 1.8L engine and a big resistance factor are not a good match for fuel efficiency.
#3013 of 3315 Re: Finally some info on the '08 Matrix [mmyk72]
Feb 20, 2006 (12:29 pm)
No significant changes between the 2005 and 2006.....we have one of each in red, as you described, but without antilock brakes.
Gets heat within 3 or 4 blocks here in Dayton, OH even when it is in the teens and air is nice and cold in summer. No rattles or squeaks in first 6 months of ownership. Very well built.
The only thing we can say even slightly negative is that economy is not as good as the EPA ratings of 28 city and 34 highway. Actually it may get 34 on pure highway, but we have not ran a full tank through doing nothing but highway. City and suburban we get about 26 average; sometimes a little more.
As a comparison, my Miata is rated 23/29 mpg and in the same urban and suburban driving I average about 28-29.
Very nice cars though. Never see many on the new car lots and never see them advertised on TV. What the dealers get, they seem to sell quickly.
We bought both for invoice plus $50 title plus 7% tax. On the second one we bought I had the dealer order it in to coninside with the fall sale Toyota Corp. has around Thanksgiving. They put out $1000 coupons, so on the second one I got it $1000 under invoice.
At least in my market (OHIO) Toyota has two of these $1000 coupon sales a year (at least the past few years).....one at Thanksgiving and one in the Spring.
#3014 of 3315 Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [path4]
Feb 25, 2006 (12:35 pm)
If the fuel mileage is so bad in the Matrix,then why did Edmunds recently rate it no.10 in their top ten fuel efficient cars? I've had my 03 5 speed XR for 4 years now,never got below 30 mpg and usually average 33-34 in the warmer months and have gotten 36 on long highway trips.I think people buy it with the auto and/or all wheel drive configurations and somehow expect to get 5 speed two wheel drive gas mileage out of it with the AC on most of the time-never going to happen.Noisy engine? It's a sporty car with an engine that likes to rev and the sound is part of it's appeal.
As for reliability I've had a DRL light sensor and the rearview mirror replaced under warranty and those are the only problems I've ever had with the car.I'd consider buying the new model,but it looks like Toyota is going to ruin it with a bigger engine and poor fuel economy like they did with the Celica replacement- the TC! I'm also disappointed to see that they're doing away with the rear window opening on the 07 ,as I use that most of the time,much more convenient than opening and closing the big hatch.