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Toyota Matrix, Wagon
#2999 of 3315 Re: matrix side impact crash [joey0708]
Feb 13, 2006 (9:21 am)
Actually you can get side airbags in a Matrix that is not 4 wheel drive. Just over 1 year I ordered a 2005 front wheel drive Matrix XR 5-speed through my local dealer (Central Atlantic Region). My salesman first checked all dealers in the region for a vehicle that I liked (5-speed, ABS, and Side Airbags) and found none. It took approximately 7 weeks from the time my order was placed to receive the car. I've been completely satisfied in my first year with the car.
If you buy a Matrix without side airbags, crash performance will likely be similar, (but not necessarily identical) to the Corolla, since the Matrix has a higher seating position and weighs slightly more.
Another thing to consider when deciding between vehicles that may or may not have side airbags is resale. In 5 - 10 years when you might sell this vehicle, side airbags will probably be standard on every car sold. A car without side airbags would be harder to sell, or would sell at a reduced price.
In my opinion, the initial extra cost of side airbags is worth it when you consider that they might save your life, or that your car's resale will be that much better. (I just wish that Toyota would make them standard equipment like Honda is now doing on all of their vehicles, or at least make them more readily available without having to custom order from the factory.)
#3000 of 3315 Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [joey0708]
Feb 13, 2006 (1:17 pm)
If you care about gas price, you shouldn't buy Matrix. A V4 Camery is more fuel efficient. It sounds very strange, but it is the absolute truth. I have never got above 30mpg, mostly 28 on a long highway trip. It is probably because of wind resistence and 1.8L engine being too little. All in all, Matrix is a vehicle poorly made by toyota.
Feb 13, 2006 (5:39 pm)
Too bad there is no V4 in the Camry.
#3002 of 3315 Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [path4]
Feb 14, 2006 (10:05 am)
As one other person pointed out, there is no V4 in the Camry. However, as a Matrix owner, I must disagree with your assertion that the Matrix is a "vehicle poorly made by Toyota." Since I purchased a 2005 XR 5-speed just over 1 year ago, the car has performed exactly as expected. It has needed nothing more than routine maintenance (oil changes and tire rotations) and gas mileage has been right in line with the EPA estimates of 36 highway and 30 city. The lowest mileage I have ever gotten was 31 MPG, and that was on the first tank from the dealer. Since then, fill-ups with mostly highway miles have consistently been 35 - 36 MPG, while fill-ups with a mix of highway and some local driving have averaged 33 MPG.
I don't know whether or not you also own a Camry with which to compare the Matrix (I don't); but if you compare EPA mileage estimates for the Camry with the Matrix (both with 4 cylinders, 2WD, and automatic transmissions) you'll note that Camry estimates are 34 highway and 24 city; while the Matrix is estimated at 34 highway and 28 city. Mileage estimates for the 4WD Matrix are a bit lower at 31 highway and 26 city, while estimates for the XRS model, with the more powerful engine, are 32 highway and 25 city.
Bottom-line, in most cases the Matrix will get better MPG (based on EPA estimates) than the Camry, with possible exceptions being the 4WD and XRS models of Matrix, neither of which represents a sizable percentage of sales. My own experience with a 2WD XR 5-speed Matrix suggests that Matrix MPG is very good and exactly what I should have expected.
#3003 of 3315 Re: - [dudleyr]
Feb 14, 2006 (10:09 am)
My 2005 Matrix XR 5-speed turns at about 2300 RPM at 60 MPH in 5th gear.
#3004 of 3315 Re: - [johnc19]
Feb 14, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Thanks, I was trying to figure out if the gearing is the same as the Corolla, and it appears to be. The Corolla also turns 2,300 rpm at 60. I am trying to avoid a buzzy car, as the speed limit here is 75 and routing hwy speeds are 80+. 4,000 rpm gets old after several hours.
#3005 of 3315 Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [johnc19]
Feb 14, 2006 (9:57 pm)
I must congratulate on your lucky Matrix. I also read someone's matrix could get 38mpg on highway. Mine is 2004 base 2WD with 19K miles now. Today I got a pathetic 26.4mpg for a 350 miles highway only trip. I know I am not alone, so I am not sure why people are telling vastly different stories. But, I will ask the guys at toyota to take a look at it. Most likely, they will do nothing about it.
My lowest mileage is 18mpg, for a normal local only driving.
Feb 15, 2006 (4:13 pm)
Were all 350 miles on the highway? What speed were you going? How many psi in the tires? Were there hills? What transmission do you have? etc.
#3007 of 3315 Finally some info on the '08 Matrix
Feb 16, 2006 (8:04 am)
Expect a short carryover '07 model year, with the following changes applying to a early release '08.
2007 major model change.
- 2.4L (2AZ-FE)
Sequential Multiport Electronic Fuel Injection
Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle [ULEV]
Compression Ratio - 9.6:1
Horsepower (kW) - 157 (119) 5700 rpm
Torque (N.m) - 163 lb.ft. (221) 4000 rpm
- available all wheel drive (new one) 5 speed tranny
- solid hatch door (no more separate opening glass)
- XRS will be discontinued
These are confirmed for the major model change in 2007 either for the 2007 model or early release 2008 depending on how the new Woodstock plant launch goes.
With the XRS being discontinued, this means that the GT Vibe is being cancelled. Also the AWD Vibe is being cancelled.
Feb 16, 2006 (11:53 am)
Sounds like I better hurry up and get one before they "improve" it with a thirstier and heavier engine.