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#2673 of 3315 nippon
Oct 25, 2004 (8:10 pm)
Still missing your Trix, I see just j/k of course....
In 2005, it will appear that I'll be trading out of my Matrix for a 330ci. Had an unforgettable drive in a friend's 330ci recently, and cannot get over it. It is definitely a keeper for me - the Bimmer of course. After being a huge Toyota/Lexus-ophile for years, I'll be buying my first German car, and only the 3-series makes the cut for me. I'll most probably get a fairly used one, and wait to buy the 2006/2007 newly designed LSxxx. The wife wants an LX470 in 2005, so we'll do one for her (LX) and one for me (330ci). That should make both of us quite happy.
Oh, my '03 with 33K miles needs new shoes.... Will get one on soon. Anyone chaning brakes at 33K miles ? I would have expected the brakes to go for 50K miles, but the way I drive the car, I am actually surprised it lasted that long.. Like my Trix, but love the Bimmer more... Nothing against Toyota whatsoever.
Oct 26, 2004 (4:48 am)
If you had a pre-2005 Volvo S40/V40 it wouldn't be unusual to need brake maintenance at 33K, but it's pretty unusual for most makes. The dealer serviced our '03 4WD Matrix in July with 17,691 miles on the odometer and wrote on the checklist:
Front Brake Pads Approximately 20% Worn
Rear Brake Pads/Shoes Approximately 5% Worn
Oct 26, 2004 (6:39 am)
I do think back very fondly on my Matrix! If only I hadn't rushed into that purchase quite so quickly, I would still have that car.
I like the new front end for '05, but I prefer the old taillights I had on mine. I very much like the change to the Toyota digital clock on the dash inside, as well as to the Toyota stereo. I don't know how it sounds compared to the old one, but it looks nicer and fits the look of the interior better.
If they keep this model around for a second gen and make the 2.4 with the factory supercharger available on the top trim level, I may yet be going back to Matrix in three or four years...
#2676 of 3315 Re: oac [nippononly]
Oct 26, 2004 (7:40 am)
Is there a place on the Toyota website to check dealer inventory? I can't seem to find it. Thanks.
#2677 of 3315 nippon
Oct 26, 2004 (5:16 pm)
Yeah, I agree with you on the tail-lights on the '05. I don't particularly care for the Alteeza look (fits better on the real Alteeza/IS). The 2.4L engine may not be too long in waiting for going into the Trix, seeing that it's already in the Scion Tc. But, I won't bet on it. In 3/4-years when you are ready to trade-out of the RSX there'll probably be plenty to choose from.
herz_: 17K miles and only 20% wear on front brakes of your Trix ? Geez!!! Obviously you don't live in a hilly town like we have here in San Diego. 33K miles is plenty long in-between changing brakes here in SD.
#2678 of 3315 Dirty Transmission Fluid
Oct 26, 2004 (6:52 pm)
I love my 2003 Matrix and haven't had any problems with it, but in checking my transmission fluid, I discovered that the fluid was black. It has about 22,000 miles and normally the fluid is a reddish color. I had the 15,000 mile service done at the dealership and it includes a transmission fluid change. In looking at the service invoice, there is no listing for the transmission fluid under the parts. It lists the other parts such the engine oil and filter, but no transmission fluid. I suspect that the transmission oil change service was not done. When I called the Toyota dealership, the service manager said the transmission oil can get dirty and dark pretty quickly. I am skeptical and wanted to get advice from any of the Edmunds forum readers.
Oct 27, 2004 (5:30 am)
I checked the invoice from the 15,000 service on our Matrix. The transmission fluid is in the itemized list. I'd say you're probably right that it wasn't changed. Otherwise, your dealer is telling you that it was indeed changed but they didn't charge you for it???
Nippon, the elevation in my town west of Boston ranges from about 150 feet to about 500 feet above sea level. Not flat, but also not like San Francisco. (I don't know how San Diego compares to San Fran.) I never had to have the brakes done on my '94 Corolla wagon, which I drove for 111,000+ miles over 10 years. But that had a standard transmission, and I am told brakes don't last as long with automatics. Even so, I am expecting them to last maybe 55K to 60K.
#2680 of 3315 111,000 on brakes?
Oct 27, 2004 (8:34 am)
Are we talking getting the brakes replaced or 111,000 on the brake shoes? If the latter what were you doing, dragging your foot on the ground to stop the car .
I think I went around 50,000 K before I replaced them on my VW.. but that was doing DC traffic.
#2681 of 3315 the last car I kept a while
Oct 27, 2004 (9:44 am)
was my Subaru Outback Sport, and when I sold it at 115K, it still had the original front brake pads, with 50% remaining per the mechanical inspection the buyer commissioned. How about that? And I live near San Francisco! A lot of those miles were highway though. And it was a manual - automatics definitely use brakes faster because the engine is still pushing the car even when you are braking (better compression braking in a manual too). It was also still on its original clutch, but that was near its replacement time.
So is there anyone here who is following Toyota's maintenance recommendation not to ever change the auto trans fluid (under normal driving conditions)? That is what I was on the road to doing, before I got impatient with the car and sold it for something new.
oac: Mazda5 will be here in a year - looks like a direct competitor to the Matrix with a sporty mission. Also the Suzuki Reno is here now along with the Spectra5, but I am not yet at the point where I would consider a Kia, or any of the rebadged-Daewoo Suzukis.
Oct 28, 2004 (10:41 am)
I'm talking about driving the car for 111,200 miles and never doing anything to the brakes. Everything still original, and still functioning properly. That's one of the few things the dealer checked before accepting the car for a trade-in.
I know people who have driven Hondas who got 115,000 miles or more from the original brakes. But again these were standard transmissions.