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Toyota Matrix, Wagon
#2498 of 3315 Coming of Age and Buying a Matrix
Apr 19, 2004 (9:07 pm)
I thought the posts about one's age, the car's color, and purchasing a Matrix were interesting. I bought a standard matrix in February. Right off the lot. I didn't have many choices in color; there were only two to choose from. The one I chose is lunar mist. It's fine. Now, I am what one might call old -- 53 and still counting. The salesman told me that Toyota erred in terms of their target audience for this car. Far more "older" people in our city (Albuquerque), like me, were buying the Matrix than were the younger, but targeted, crowd.
I didn't want to buy a Matrix, or any car. I loved my 1987 Camry. But too bad for me. I was rear-ended in January of this year by a loaded sand-and-gravel truck. The Camry went to the graveyard for parts. The next dilemma was what to get. I got to drive a rental car, as part of the accident settlement, and they gave me a 2003 Camry. You know what, I thought the thing was too sleek for me. So first I headed to the Chrysler dealer. I drove the PT Cruiser, which I had pined for for years. I had a pit in my stomach. Something wasn't right. I went to Toyota and saw the little Matrix. I fell in love with this odd-looking creature. I drove the thing, and it felt like my old Camry. I could hear the road. But it was different, like a spaceship. And in the back, I could load things. One's life changes. In 1987, I was concerned mostly with my professional work. By 2004, I had also become a farmer. Do old people become farmers? Yes, they do. And this little Matrix is perfect for taking all my gear and produce to market. All the seats fold down perfectly, unlike the Cruiser whose seats tilt upward when folded down.
And about my friends. They are mostly "old" too. Everyone of them who has seen my Matrix now wants one, too. I think I might become a Toyota salesman. All I have to do is sit one of my friends down in the back seat and she is sold on the car.
Apr 20, 2004 (8:51 am)
of the Matrix is one of its biggest selling points. The Gen Y advertisers always go on about how the youth want lots of space for their surfboards, bikes and whatever, but the fact is that lots of useable space is good for people from all age brackets...
#2500 of 3315 Reminds me
Apr 20, 2004 (7:32 pm)
When we were car shopping last year. My wife first saw the PT Cruiser and told me she wanted something like that car. If she wants a wagon, I suggested why not check out a Matrix. My kids are very picky, ditto my wife (figures, of course), so when we first looked at the Matrix, the wife liked it immediately, BUT once the kids sat in the back seat, they were sold as well.
Me, I simply love the Matrix. It is my favorite car. On the freeway, this car is an excellent cruiser. It'll do 80 without a sweat. The only problem is while climbing upgrades/inclines, the engine struggles quite a bit. BUT, it's a keeper, and will drive it until it dies. It is such a fun car....
Nippon: did I read you right that you have gotten rid of your Trix ? What did you replace it with ? And WHY did you get rid of it ??? Just very curious, since you were one of the early owners.....
Apr 20, 2004 (9:24 pm)
there was a lot I loved about the Matrix but I traded it for an RSX - smaller, sportier, and faster, which is more suited to my tastes. I will miss the back seat and the space though, that is for sure.
One of the problems with the early Matrixes like mine is that squeaks rattles and vibrations were rampant and could never be completely chased away. I hear the new ones have that totally fixed. Good. This is a great car in many ways - utility, versatility, economy. Not to mention those looks I still love even though I don't own mine any longer...
#2502 of 3315 mistaken identity
Apr 20, 2004 (10:53 pm)
Got asked for the third time if my Matrix was a hybrid. Seems that the unusual styling of the Matrix outside/inside (it looks kind of futuristic to me) is making more than a few people confusing it with the Prius.
#2503 of 3315 Driving position
Apr 20, 2004 (11:33 pm)
My only complain (and a big one, for that matter) right after getting my Matrix was the reach of the steering wheel seemed too far. I just couldn't get comfortable with the driving position initially. I kind of noticed that during the test drive but didn't pay too much attention to it. My big fear was that I either had to live with a car with an uncomfortable driving position for a long time, or I'd be forced to sell it soon if I truly couldn't live with it. It took a little time (perhaps 3 weeks) but I'm happy to say that I got used to it so it's no longer an issue. Now the car is just perfect in every way. (Well, the doors in the back are kind of high so shorter people and kids may not have the best sight line to see out from the back seats.) In fact, when I switch to driving our Sienna on the weekend the Sienna (which has always been pretty comfortable to drive) feels pretty weird for the first few minutes.
Apr 21, 2004 (9:16 am)
if that is styling confusion or what, because people used to ask me if my Matrix was a hybrid too, and at the time the Prius was still the classic sedan model. I think what people mean is "crossover", not hybrid, and they are just confusing terms. At least, that was as much as I thought it through before I quit thinking about it!
#2505 of 3315 mistaken identity
Apr 21, 2004 (1:28 pm)
In my case it was pretty clear that people were using the term hybrid correctly because each time the discussion led directly to the type of engine used.
Even the first generation Prius looked different enough from a regular car for many casual observers to notice. I can easily see how casual observers get the Matrix mixed up with both first and second generation Prius - all three cars look different from the norm. You wolnd't get that with a Vibe, which has a much more "normal" exterior.
#2506 of 3315 normal exterior for the Vibe ?
Apr 21, 2004 (8:50 pm)
Nippon: Sad to see you go out of the Trix, hope you like the RSX. They do look nice but small-ish to me. May be my failing old eyes
deg: Did you say the Vibe has a "normal" exterior ? What is that ? The Vibe is dangerously close to looking like the much-despised Aztec. Sharing an exterior skin with a car-truck-whatever like an Aztec cannot be considered a "normal" exterior. No ? BUT, the Vibe is a nice little car, although I much prefer the exterior of my Matrix over any Pontiac anyday.
#2507 of 3315 Normal or not
Apr 21, 2004 (11:08 pm)
Comparing the Vibe to the Aztec vastly dilutes the seriousness of Aztec's ugliness. The Vibe's front end is just too much for me, but it's instantly recognizable as a Pontiac. The rest of the exteror actually looks pretty good to me, especially when the lower panels are painted to match the rest of the body. Its comparably flat side contours and window shapes make it look similar to a number of tall wagon/cute-utes from other makes, and that's what I meant by "more normal". The Matrix, on the other hand, has a unusual side coutour. Combine that with the wrap-around rear glass treatment, the Matrix looks oddly futuristic (i.e., not normal), hence the confusion with the equally unusual and futuristic looking hybrids (Prius) from Toyota.