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Toyota Matrix, Wagon
Apr 14, 2004 (9:39 pm)
No, Corolla is such a revered Toyota model, I am sure they will not rename it a Scion after 2008. But the Matrix, which is currently the Corolla Matrix technically, may well become its own stand-alone model. I think it already should be - there are so many differences between Matrix and Corolla.
xA and xB are built on the global Toyota Echo platform (also Yaris etc in other countries). And i think if you sit in and drive an xA, you will agree it is a lot smaller than the Matrix. (I like Matrix better for many reasons). I think they could market Matrix and xA side by side. But of course, the thing is that Scion is designed to have quick model turnovers, so maybe by MY 2008 there will not BE an xA any more...
#2495 of 3315 Re: Decided to lease ... the Matrix XR [riccd2001 #2493]
Apr 15, 2004 (7:31 am)
The final dealbreaker was the color?!?!?!?!? Man, I can't agree with that logic. Once I decide which car to buy, there are certain colors I will not get (black and white in my case) - but I would never let the color of the car decide which model I got. I am in the same boat of trying to decide between the Mazda3 and the Matrix, and color will not be the dealbreaker. I will decide based on engine performance, handling, fuel economy, build quality, etc...
Apr 15, 2004 (8:50 am)
I can see color being a tie-breaker if all other factors are considered to cancel each other out.
#2497 of 3315 Re: Decided to lease ... the Matrix XR
Apr 15, 2004 (2:20 pm)
As far as my final Mazda3/Matrix comparison, the technical advantage of a telescoping SW together with lever pump-up controls for driver seat comfort were cancelled in favour of the daily covenience of an in-car & key fob hatch release.
Sometimes, for us, the seemingly "trivial" things go a long way to level the playing field. But it's great to have the freedom of choice between such fine products. And, of course,I completely respect and accept my wife's abilities in colour selection.
#2498 of 3315 Coming of Age and Buying a Matrix
Apr 19, 2004 (9:07 pm)
I thought the posts about one's age, the car's color, and purchasing a Matrix were interesting. I bought a standard matrix in February. Right off the lot. I didn't have many choices in color; there were only two to choose from. The one I chose is lunar mist. It's fine. Now, I am what one might call old -- 53 and still counting. The salesman told me that Toyota erred in terms of their target audience for this car. Far more "older" people in our city (Albuquerque), like me, were buying the Matrix than were the younger, but targeted, crowd.
I didn't want to buy a Matrix, or any car. I loved my 1987 Camry. But too bad for me. I was rear-ended in January of this year by a loaded sand-and-gravel truck. The Camry went to the graveyard for parts. The next dilemma was what to get. I got to drive a rental car, as part of the accident settlement, and they gave me a 2003 Camry. You know what, I thought the thing was too sleek for me. So first I headed to the Chrysler dealer. I drove the PT Cruiser, which I had pined for for years. I had a pit in my stomach. Something wasn't right. I went to Toyota and saw the little Matrix. I fell in love with this odd-looking creature. I drove the thing, and it felt like my old Camry. I could hear the road. But it was different, like a spaceship. And in the back, I could load things. One's life changes. In 1987, I was concerned mostly with my professional work. By 2004, I had also become a farmer. Do old people become farmers? Yes, they do. And this little Matrix is perfect for taking all my gear and produce to market. All the seats fold down perfectly, unlike the Cruiser whose seats tilt upward when folded down.
And about my friends. They are mostly "old" too. Everyone of them who has seen my Matrix now wants one, too. I think I might become a Toyota salesman. All I have to do is sit one of my friends down in the back seat and she is sold on the car.
Apr 20, 2004 (8:51 am)
of the Matrix is one of its biggest selling points. The Gen Y advertisers always go on about how the youth want lots of space for their surfboards, bikes and whatever, but the fact is that lots of useable space is good for people from all age brackets...
#2500 of 3315 Reminds me
Apr 20, 2004 (7:32 pm)
When we were car shopping last year. My wife first saw the PT Cruiser and told me she wanted something like that car. If she wants a wagon, I suggested why not check out a Matrix. My kids are very picky, ditto my wife (figures, of course), so when we first looked at the Matrix, the wife liked it immediately, BUT once the kids sat in the back seat, they were sold as well.
Me, I simply love the Matrix. It is my favorite car. On the freeway, this car is an excellent cruiser. It'll do 80 without a sweat. The only problem is while climbing upgrades/inclines, the engine struggles quite a bit. BUT, it's a keeper, and will drive it until it dies. It is such a fun car....
Nippon: did I read you right that you have gotten rid of your Trix ? What did you replace it with ? And WHY did you get rid of it ??? Just very curious, since you were one of the early owners.....
Apr 20, 2004 (9:24 pm)
there was a lot I loved about the Matrix but I traded it for an RSX - smaller, sportier, and faster, which is more suited to my tastes. I will miss the back seat and the space though, that is for sure.
One of the problems with the early Matrixes like mine is that squeaks rattles and vibrations were rampant and could never be completely chased away. I hear the new ones have that totally fixed. Good. This is a great car in many ways - utility, versatility, economy. Not to mention those looks I still love even though I don't own mine any longer...
#2502 of 3315 mistaken identity
Apr 20, 2004 (10:53 pm)
Got asked for the third time if my Matrix was a hybrid. Seems that the unusual styling of the Matrix outside/inside (it looks kind of futuristic to me) is making more than a few people confusing it with the Prius.
#2503 of 3315 Driving position
Apr 20, 2004 (11:33 pm)
My only complain (and a big one, for that matter) right after getting my Matrix was the reach of the steering wheel seemed too far. I just couldn't get comfortable with the driving position initially. I kind of noticed that during the test drive but didn't pay too much attention to it. My big fear was that I either had to live with a car with an uncomfortable driving position for a long time, or I'd be forced to sell it soon if I truly couldn't live with it. It took a little time (perhaps 3 weeks) but I'm happy to say that I got used to it so it's no longer an issue. Now the car is just perfect in every way. (Well, the doors in the back are kind of high so shorter people and kids may not have the best sight line to see out from the back seats.) In fact, when I switch to driving our Sienna on the weekend the Sienna (which has always been pretty comfortable to drive) feels pretty weird for the first few minutes.