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You are in the Toyota Matrix
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Toyota Matrix, Wagon
#2241 of 3315 You are correct sir:
Sep 09, 2003 (5:22 am)
John: There are Q /C people on site not only from Toyota and GM but from most of their suppliers as well, especially Delphi too.
Nippon: Don't get me wrong I in no way think that the Sunfire / Cav. combo can even come near the design and execution of the Vibe / Matrix. But it does seem strange that the GM "twins" having been born one of GM's worst assembly plants have far fewer problems, in my case anyway, than the so highly acclaimed Toyota quality. I have also noticed that Hyundai's fit and finish has pulled equal to and in the case of the three Sonatas we have in our fleet exceeded that of whati see in the Camry. I am anxious to get a gander at the 2004 Suzuki "Verona" which is a Daewoo clone I think. From what I saw of the Daewoo stuff it did not have half bad fit & finish. Daewoo was more a victim of poor marketing / management than being poor cars. Still see a lot of them on the road.
Sep 09, 2003 (6:00 am)
of course being tongue in cheek about the whole QC thing...
the only Daewoo I ever drove was a test drive in a Nubira, which was definitely a second-rate car at the time. But, that was several years ago.
I am already seeing ads in print for the new Suzuki sedan...will be interested to see what it looks like in person.
I am usually someone who keeps cars for a while, out past 100K, but if the Matrix continues to have these little problems with minor broken stuff and more rattles over the next few years, this might be the first one I trade sooner...
...I am glad that it is still fun to drive at least...a year of driving has not worn off the fun!
Sep 09, 2003 (6:13 am)
I am enjoying my matrix. I think I got the perfect compromise car if that makes any sense. I have a zippy, agile, and fun car that also has cargo versatility. It reminds me a lot of the fun I had with my old 84 Scirocco which only had half the horsepower. My son likes it and has asked if he can drive it when he's 20 (in 12 years). I hope it lasts that long.
Sep 10, 2003 (7:32 am)
I'm curious about the Suzuki station wagon, which I have heard is available in 4WD.
Other than the twilight sensor, which was replaced and now seems to work very nicely, I haven't experienced problems like those reported by nippononly on our '03 4WD Matrix. My wife is the primary driver, but I tend to drive it at least once a week. I find the door to the little vertical compartment near the floor (underneath where the radio is) to be a bit of a pain -- that's where I keep my glasses case when I'm driving. But we don't have any rattles, or other things that other Matrix owners have experienced.
I bought new Honda station wagons in 1977 and 1979, and a friend has always had Hondas up until a year ago. Our experience has been that they are very reliable but that you start having to put a good bit of money into them after about 90K miles, and getting Honda to take care of things under warrenty or shortly thereafter has not been pleasant. I'd hesitate to buy another Honda at this point.
Sep 15, 2003 (3:27 pm)
I was wondering does the seats that fold down come out also or just fold down.
Sep 15, 2003 (3:49 pm)
Just fold down.
#2247 of 3315 Bigger engine
Sep 22, 2003 (11:55 pm)
Now, when both Focus and Mazda3 has 2.3-L engine, and Golf/Jetta always had VR6 option, and even Elantra and that funny Suzuki have 2.0-L... Now Toyota has no other choice than to drop at least 2.0 into Matrix. I will wait till next year. Hope Toyota will return All-Trac version as well...
Sep 23, 2003 (8:59 am)
that would be really cool.
Now that they have "seen the light" to install the Highlander 4-cyl as standard engine in RAV, maybe they can take the now-former 2L from the RAV and plop it in the Matrix! That would be good for almost 20 additional hp, still would not compete too much with the racy XRS engine, and would be most welcome, especially in the AWD models.
Sep 23, 2003 (9:28 am)
But wouldn't they have to revamp the AWD system? They already detuned the 1.8l for that as it is.
I was in a Matrix convoy the other day. The front one was indigo then came my cosmic blue followed by a silver. All three were XRS which is probably all of them in this area. Maybe I should have been playing lotto that day.
Sep 23, 2003 (11:40 am)
Actually, that funny Suzuki gains a 155 hp 2.3 liter engine for 04......The Matrix is definitely being left in the dust in the hp war.