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Toyota Matrix, Wagon
#2009 of 3315 gregoriusm ...
May 20, 2003 (4:56 am)
I haven't quite ruled out the Vibe yet, but am leaning toward the Matrix, mostly for the reasons that nippononly brought up. I hear the roof rack on the Vibe does add noise. Also, the Toyota will definitely hold its value better. But it really is a tossup. I'd say go with whatever car you think has better styling.
Couple of other reasons to pick the Matrix over the Vibe:
1) The Matrix comes with a cassette and a CD, which is important to me because I can use the cassette deck to listen to my MP3 player.
2) Some say that the visibility from inside the Matrix is a little better because of the slightly different styling.
3) The Vibe is a bit more expensive, and since some Toyota dealers are willing to sell the 2004 at only a little over invoice, it seems that the Matrix is a better deal considering that its value will hold up better.
#2010 of 3315 To respond to recent posts...
May 20, 2003 (7:00 am)
Hi Folks - Regarding the Vibe vs the Matrix, you may also want to check out this discussion: Matrix & Vibe Enthusiasts - Compare Notes. Also, feel free to copy/paste your recent posts, comparing the two, into this discussion. Others passing through there will appreciate your notes. Thanks!
To halowse - Congratulations! We look forward to hearing about your delivery experience.... Happy motoring!
Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
#2011 of 3315 Matrix vs. Jetta 1.8T
May 20, 2003 (8:48 pm)
These are different cars -- a hatchback and a sedan. The better VW analog would be Golf 1.8T 5-door which I wanted to buy, but VW was producing it for only about one year, so one cannot get a new one now. VW is stupid enough to keep this engine for Golf GTI only, because it is a "sporty" 3-door car (at least this what I was told on the LA car show). Now, if my info is correct, they pulled 1.8T from wagon as well. How "sporty" is Jetta then, I wonder? It is just a plain boring sedan.
Considering Matrix: Yamaha engine is good and high-revving, but a car of this weight need more low-end torque. Will wait till 2.0 high-rev engine or will go for WRX wagon. Still undecided... But I have enough time to think this over, my Camry is simply bulletproof.
May 26, 2003 (9:29 am)
I've had my 5 speed Matrix for 4 weeks now and just filled in second tank of gas. What a nice surprise - 6.4 l/100km (44 UK mpg or 37 US mpg) 90% city driving, warm, some AC. The first tank wasn't that good but still well better than the sticker numbers.
It's still in breaking-in (1200 km) so I don't step on gas to hard. No rattle noises, no rotten egg smell, no problems at all. Plenty of power when needed (manual transmission). Happy to have it, it's my first new car, and first Toyota.
May 27, 2003 (5:19 am)
...after a long, hard search for a car, I finally bought a 2004 Matrix XR 5-speed (Black/Charcoal) with everything but ABS and side airbags. I ordered it from the factory for 2% above invoice, so it came to about $17,000 plus tax. I checked out the new gauges--they look really nice!
Couple of questions:
1) I noticed that a leather steering wheel cover and shifter weren't listed as options. Was anyone able to get these as an option on their Matrix?
2) I got a cargo mat with mine, but am wondering if there is a mat for the rest of the cargo floor when you put the seats down (ie. a mat for the back of the rear seat).
Thanks for any info!
May 27, 2003 (6:23 am)
having a mat for the back of the rear seats, but where would you put it when the seats were up? I guess you would just stack it on top of the existing cargo mat?
#2016 of 3315 Leather shifter and wheel
May 27, 2003 (3:00 pm)
The leather shifter and steering wheel are standard only on the XRS. I saw the new gauges also, they are better with white numbers but worse with the dials, kinda hard to tell where the redline is. All in all, I would swap them with mine....maybe.
#2017 of 3315 I'm kicking my butt
May 28, 2003 (6:37 pm)
At reasonably high speed, around 80. The Matrix feels fairly unstable. I wish I bought the CRV. It is definitely better value for money.
#2018 of 3315 phankane
May 28, 2003 (11:03 pm)
Are you serious or joking ? What model do you have ? Xcuse me, 80mph is not "reasonable high speed", that is normal freeway speed here in So Cal. I have had my XR (auto) up to 100 mph and it felt solid as a rock, maybe a little light, but nothing dangerously unstable about it.
Oh, talking about my Matrix, I can only dream about it now. Why ? While on a trip to Europe last week, the wife crashed it into a pole inside our garage. My daughter left a rear door wide open to quickly run inside the house to pick up something she forgot, my wife didn't check her mirrors, put the car in reverse, and with a wide open door slammed into the pillar in the garage. The door was almost yanked off its hinges upon impact.
Cost = $2100 (out the door)
Deductible = $500 (sucks)
Cost of a new door = $495, the rest is labor + whatever else the body shop could throw in since it is covered by insurance.
It will take about a month before it will be done. New model car, parts hard to get from factory/supplier, yada yada yada... according to body shop.... I can say it has been quite tough dealing with the loss of my little hatchback. I've grown so fond of the car, that I am actually having withdrawal symptoms. The Matrix is such a fun car, and I know I speak for all owners on this. I cannot wait for the day it comes back healed of its sickness
Oh, the new red-white gauge on the '04 doesn't do it for me. I prefer the all red '03 version. It glows beautifully at night, just like the Bimmer gauges. I live in So Cal, and haven't had any problem with glare or reflections people are complaining about. Oh well.... everyone to their own taste....