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#955 of 5143 Poor Visibility Ruins this 2005 jeep GC for me
Mar 07, 2005 (6:18 am)
Well after 1 week driving and 700 miles I decided for my own safety to turn the 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo with F Pack back in and/or sell it.
I am convinced that I simply cannot see out of this Jeep. The rear view mirror is right in my face, its actualy lower than eyelevel. Usually one looks up to the right to see a rear view mirror but the low roof line has it mounted so low its a hug obstrution blocking half the front windshield. I couldn't see folks crossing a crosswalk which is dangerous.. the A pilars are so large my view is totally obstructed on driver and passenger sides. I spend all my time driving, ducking and moving around to see wher the hell I'm going.
I am 5'9 and had the power seat all the way down. But I have to duck and move around constantly just to change lanes on the highway or navigate a turn. That is dangerous. Driving in a parking lot is a nightmare I simply can't see. If I make a right turn I have to move all over to see and then hope and pray no one is coming from the right. That's bad. Chrysler/Jeep really messed up a good thing.
I had two other jeeps (1993 and 2000)and drove them to 120k plus miles and didn't have this problem.
I went to my dealer and told them I am selling it back to them (I hope they will take it back as I await info from the General sales manager).
While there I sat in a 2003 and had no issues with visibility. Obviously the low roof line and decision to make it a more "low riding" style had the trade off of poor visibility.
Its gonna be a loss but oh well. I test drove a chevy trailblazer and ford explorer yesterday and didn't have these problems. Looks like I'll be buying one of them.
I'm sad cause I really like jeeps.
#956 of 5143 Engine shuts off after idfling
Mar 07, 2005 (7:08 am)
I have a 1997 Grand Cherokee 5.2 V8. After it idles for about 10 minutes it will shut off.When I restart it and give it the gas and hold it steady the RPM`s will start to hunt and then it will shut off. I`ll restart it and the Tac won`t work and then it will stall out. I`ll start it again and none of the instruments will work and the engine will run for a couple of minutes and shut off and then the low fuel light comes on until I turn the ignition off. The tank is half full. I don`t get a check engine light during any of the above. If I wait a couple of hours the same process will start from the begining. I think it is the Powertrain Control Module but I would like to make sure because it is a no return item and expensive.
#957 of 5143 Re: Engine shuts off after idfling [ronc49]
Mar 07, 2005 (12:27 pm)
THis could be a couple of things, I'll tell you what solved a similiar idle problem for me.
I changed my battery, (the battery was old, and on cold days, the PCM must have been getting bad or modulated current)
Before I changed my battery, I had a discussion with a mech. about the Idle stop solenoid, because when they go bad, they exhibit the same, unwillingness to idle. So I was going to spring for one of those parts, but the battery change fixed the idle problem, and the mysterious gauge malfunction. None have which reoccured since the battery swap.
#958 of 5143 Re: Recently spoke to JGC [marsha7]
Mar 07, 2005 (1:02 pm)
Salesmen are not always the most accurate source of information, I would check anything that a salesperson tells me directly against the brochure they provide you.
The Jeep 4x4 system that lets you pick what you want, (2wd, 4wdhi, 4x4full time, & 4x4 low) is called the select trac system, and it is in Jeep Libertys. (it used to be the base system in the old 4x4 Grands)But Jeep moved to an electronic switch in 05, and the jeep Select trac isn't electronic. (there was one available in dodges)
When I look at the jeep web site for 05 Grands, I see only two options. The Fulltime system, Quadra-Trac I (no low range) and the Quadra Trac-II system. (hi and lo)
While I agree that you may be giving up your choice, The fulltime system combined with traction control, is probably perfect for most drivers that have a Jeep. (most don't go off road, or require a lever to use) you get the benefit, and can forget it's there.
The QT-II system, has a low range and works a little differently, but the result is the same, the TC helps make sure the wheels with traction have some torque applied to them.
There is a third system that add's locking diffs to the QT-II system, but that is really for serious off road stuff.
I'm not familiar with the redesigned Explorer systems, but would ask you to consider your priorities, you may feel there are more important features than how the 4wd is engaged. When comparing the Jeep, to the Explorer.
#959 of 5143 Re: Poor Visibility Ruins this 2005 jeep GC for me [u2fan4688]
Mar 07, 2005 (1:46 pm)
I agree with the bad sight lines. Did your GC have a sun roof? I heard it takes 3 inches off of the interior headroom. I'm 5'10 and I couldn't see out the front window. I was looking right at the sun visor.
I was really excited about the new 05 GC outside and in from afar. Once I got inside, it was too crammed and had bad sight lines.
Too bad, as I did like it at first and it is a good deal compared to other SUVs. Now I know why, I guess.
#960 of 5143 Looking to buy
Mar 07, 2005 (7:56 pm)
i'm considering purchasing a Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee in older model years. (93-97). Any input, suggestions, horrror and triumphant stories would be greatly appreciated. Also, any suggestions on comparable SUV's if the Jeep is a bad idea. thanks.
#961 of 5143 Re: Poor Visibility Ruins this 2005 jeep GC for me [abalasko]
Mar 08, 2005 (3:45 am)
Yup, I do have the sunroof, but I am not sure it cause a 3" loss. But I only have like 1" of space between my head and the cealing with the seat all the way down.. Your right...though.. the rear view iror is right in my face and my eyes are right at the sun visor. I have to duck to see traffic lights.
I may just switch to the liberty. it has 40" of headroom compared to 39 for the GC.
Anyone else have experiences?
the Chrysler/jeep Customer service lady on the phone she never heard this before... I just laughed.
Mar 08, 2005 (8:59 am)
I think you guys just need to spend 15 minutes adjusting the seat and the mirrors until you find the optimal position. You're giving up too soon.
#963 of 5143 Re: Looking to buy [momx3]
Mar 08, 2005 (11:04 am)
I have been very happy with the two 1997 grand cherokee's I purchased. If rear seat comfort is important, get the grand cherokee. Otherwise they are both good vehicles. The L6 engine is simple and very easy to do routine maintenance on. I now have over 100,000 on both and have had only a few minor repairs($150 or less)and of course maintenance items such as brakes and tires. One thing I did find during my purchases in North Florida was that I was able to get both for less than what Edmunds said the dealer price would be(both were purchased from dealers).
#964 of 5143 transpower
Mar 08, 2005 (11:27 am)
My '99 has been in the shop and I just drove a '05 rental for 3 weeks (no sunroof). I don't like the seating position and visibility and I'm a 5'7" female. The seat is like a wooden bench and I really felt that my peripheral vision was impaired. My husband thinks the drivers seat of the '99 is cramped. He didn't drive the rental, but I feel it is more cramped than my '99. Can't wait to get it back.
u2fan, the new Consumer Reports really dings Trailblazer. You might want to do some research.