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#1951 of 5143 Re: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Recall for NAG1 W5A580 Transmission Flaw [blkhemi]
Sep 19, 2005 (5:28 pm)
"Don't buy a new car in its first year" is good advice for anyone! But it is tongue in cheek -- someone has to buy them the first year, so the bugs can be worked out for everyone else!
I should know - I bought a 1999 Grand Cherokee when the WJ model was new and had many of the problems that were endemic to that first year (failed electric windows, computer needing reflashing, the infamous warped brakes, the pernicious tick & pop from the steering column, etc.). Most of these were fixed by TSBs, and a review of the list of TSBs shows that many of these problems were figured out fairly early (although some lingered, and others popped up later).
Check out the WJ model recalls at: http://www.wjjeeps.com/recall.htm
and the WJ TSBs at: http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb.htm
And this is a problem for Daimler-Chrysler, giving rise to their reputation for poor quality. I love Jeeps: I've owned a 97 Cherokee and 99, 02, and 04 Grand Cherokees before buying the 05. They have a lot to offer. They are not overly expensive. I can live with the problems when they are on warranty. But this latest transmission problem is serious, both in numbers (over 100,000 vehicles) and impact (vehicles can catch on fire). No, it is not of the same scale as the Ford cruise control problem. DC appears to be doing all it can -- it takes time to get the procedure and the parts out to the dealers -- and I anticipate they will fix my Jeep just fine. And I will keep driving them. And when they come out with a great looking new WX in 2010, I'll probably rush out and buy one in its first year.
#1952 of 5143 2003 JGC Starting Problem
Sep 19, 2005 (6:15 pm)
HELP! My jeep has 37,000 miles on it and it has a 4.7L engine. It runs very good, but in the last 5 thousand miles or so, it intermittently has a delayed start. When that happens, it takes about 2 or 3 seconds longer to start. During that time frame, the starting noise if very low and when it finally starts, the exhaust is very rich in smell - as if it starts with too much fuel in the cylinders. I am thinking this is a computer chip problem. The dealer has tested every thing including the fuel pump. Also, this happens on cold and warm starts. Any suggestions or similar experences? Thanks.
#1953 of 5143 Re: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Recall for NAG1 W5A580 Transmission Flaw [jeeprover]
Sep 19, 2005 (6:28 pm)
"And this is a problem for Daimler-Chrysler, giving rise to their reputation for poor quality".
You can't be serious? You would rather continue to spend $30k or more on a vehicle with subpar quality than to buy a vehicle with decent quality. I have a hard time believing that. As you mentioned, you are Jeep lover in which you've owned several. I've owned several myself: 84 Cherokee, '87 Wagoneer, '91 Grand Wagoneer ( A certified classic- last year made), '93 ZJ Limited-5.2, '98 5.9 Limited 2001 JGC Laredo 4.0, 2003 Overland 4.7 H.O., and now 2005 JGC 5.7 Hemi Limited loaded to the roof. I stepped out of the Jeep box once and purchased a--get this-- everyone's favorite '99 Toyota 4-Runner Limited. That thing was plagued with problems from day numero uno. I know that you are going to say that this is a case by case event, but nevertheless TOYota's build quality is supposed to be the Standard Operating Platform in which ALL manufacturer's are to duplicate at all cost. My later model Jeeps indeed rode better than any truck I've ever owned. And as you can see, I've bought a few of them in their first m/y. I do agree with you that Chrysler (Not yet DC in 99) should have did more quality studies in their '99 and early 2000 model WJ's. I also agree with what a lot of my fellow Jeepers are saying in that DC needs to stand behind their product in more problems, whether past,present, or future.
P.S. I would also rate the Jeep's recall behind GM, Ford, and Toyota. GM- brakes that can give out without any notice whatsoever is not only dangerous for you as the owner but potentially fatal to any unsuspecting driver you may encounter. Toyota- A fuel tank that can explode on a dime-- need I say more? But these are all very very serious problems, no matter the manufacturer.
#1954 of 5143 Re: 2003 JGC Starting Problem [bfrederick]
Sep 19, 2005 (6:48 pm)
Did the dealer check the Fuel Pressure Regulator? You may also want to check the fuel filter. In what you've described, it sounds like it is a fuel delivery problem. I am interested in why the dealer can't find this problem with only 37000 miles and its 2003. Should be still under warranty.I would drop the vehicle off at the dealer and tell them not to call unless they are for sure they've fixed it. I'm certain that it is a fuel problem because you mentioned that you can smell rich fumes out of the exhaust= unburned gas. When you have to consistently turn the ignition, this causes more fuel to be funneled to the engine than the engine's computer calls for,causing burn-off.
#1955 of 5143 Re: High pitch while accelerating w/power problems now wont start [aurora141g]
Sep 19, 2005 (6:54 pm)
You either have a bad drive belt or your alternator is shot.
Take it in to an Autozone and they'll diagnose it for free.
#1956 of 5143 problems after repair...
Sep 19, 2005 (7:07 pm)
I had my 05 JGC limited with a 4.7 liter V8 repaired a few weeks ago. I had the water contamination problems as well. So far it is driving like it did when I first got it, which is perfect. Aside from this problem, and I do think it is a big one, I really really love the car. I chose jeep over all the rest (toyota, ford, GMC, etc) because my family has owned several and they are very dependable. I am curious if anyone who has had the problem a lot of us have experienced, how has the car been afterwards? Has anyone encountered more problems? Lets hope this problem is resolved after this...
#1957 of 5143 Re: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Recall for NAG1 W5A580 Transmission Flaw [blkhemi]
Sep 19, 2005 (7:21 pm)
You are right that this sort of stuff happens in other vehicles, and sometimes worse. My comments are intended for Jeep owners, who understand. Still, we need to share info on systemic problems to deal with them. It is not a criticism of the brand to discuss these problems. I continue to like and drive jeeps and think they are good value for the money. There are better vehicles, but not for the money.
#1958 of 5143 Re: 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Recall for NAG1 W5A580 Transmission Flaw [jeeprover]
Sep 19, 2005 (8:41 pm)
Well I stand corrected.
#1959 of 5143 Re: Quadratrac Problem?? [nittany1978]
Sep 20, 2005 (5:43 am)
Hello I have a 94 Grand Cherokee that does the same thing. Everyone that I talk to says that this is normal. Currently I am still working on the problem.
#1960 of 5143 Re: Quadratrac Problem?? [lowside]
Sep 20, 2005 (12:32 pm)
Most early model JGC's with Quadra-trac were notorious for what is called "gear binding" in 4x4 talk. This can involve low speed grunting, bucking, and tire squeal. It does not affect the performance of the system. I had this problem on my '93 5.2-Limited and my '98 5.9 Limited. Took both to dealer several times to only be told that it is "normal Jeep stuff". I then told them that if something happens to them that it would be all on them! But I do believe that it must be normal to earlier ZJ (93-98) and some Quadra-Drive- equipped WJ (99-02) JGC's. If the vehicle still shifts in and out of 4WD LO, I would just live with it because as you said, they want to charge you an arm and leg to rectify a problem that they still may not fix. I should know because they put brand new tranfer cases, levers, and new sets of tires to no avail.