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#60 of 87 2004 c240 4matic
Dec 22, 2003 (5:47 pm)
New Mercedes owner report - 2004 c240 4matic wagon. With Sunroof and CD player. I've driven it about 800 miles, mostly city. Overall MPG is 18.5 so far. 25 MPG for pure highway driving. I drive with ski/bike rack on the roof (yakima) so that may be causing a bit of drag at higher speeds. Have seen some posts suggesting mileage improves a bit after several thousand miles.
Interior is leather on front seats only. Seems just fine. I could see how a tall person might find his/her head bumping up against roof around the sunroof fixtures - likely no probs if 6 ft or under.
No maintenance issues so far. Well, I Left the gas cap in the slot on the filler door at the first fill - the check engine light came on for a couple of days but then cleared itself.
The car is especially at home at highway speeds. Impressive acceleration starting at 30 mph and up. Fine acceleration at lower speeds, just not as good as at the higher speeds. I'd looked at Audi and VW wagons but ended up with the c-class at least in part because they aren't quite so common on the road. The usable rear luggage area with back seat down is meaningfully bigger than friend's Subaru Legacy. I also liked it the C-class had a bit higher ground clearance - that's an issue trying to reach ski areas when ski conditions are best.
I'll see how things go as the weather kicks in this winter, but very pleased so far with the 4matic option and the whole car.
2004s come standard with heated front seats. No manuals available in the wagons, at least for now, was my understanding.
#61 of 87 Vs BMW 3 Series Wagon?
Feb 16, 2004 (3:57 pm)
I don't see a dedicated message board.
How does the C 240 wagon compare to the BMW 325 wagon as far as features, performance and price on 2 WD and AWD models?
I know the C has at least a couple more years this body style, whereas the 2005 BMW will be in its last year before redesign.
#62 of 87 2002 C320 wagon PROBLEMS
Feb 16, 2004 (8:51 pm)
Does this sound familiar to anyone else or is it just my luck? I'm leasing a 2002 C320 wagon that has been plauged with problems: 2 differentials replaced, main sensor unit replaced, right outside mirror replaced, fuel sensor replaced, air condition temp control replaced, oil sensor replaced, turn signals (R & L) replaced...still having problems with the "excess oil" warning light. It has been in the shop 11 days in the last 2 weeks! The dealer and corporate insist these problems are all "normal" and will not consider it a lemon, in fact, corporate will not return my phone calls or emails. Currently have had this piece of junk for 25 months and have about 28k miles and have had problems since 997 miles. Please relate any similar experiences or good advice!!
#63 of 87 Reply to guy with problems
Feb 18, 2004 (1:30 pm)
My wife drives a 2002 C320 Wagon sport edition, now with 23,000 miles on it. I have previously posted once before regarding trailer hitch for this car. Although I still love to drive this car I am becoming more disgusted with the nagging problems. My experience seems to coincide with timai. I have had a sway bar replaced, a gas cap replaced, parts of the interior trim have fallen off, the rear tailgate latch nearly fell off, the front turn signal wiring replaced, a stepper motor in the HVAC replaced, and the car treated to remove a funny smell coming from the HVAC system. These problems are extremely aggravating and I vow every time that I will never buy another MB product and that I will sell this one as soon as the warranty is up.
Then I drive the car and fall in love with the way it moves all over again. On the positive side the dealer does a really nice job with the repair and provides a loaner when my car is in for service ( frequent ). I am very particular about maintenance and cleanliness of my cars and have previously done all the work myself on all my cars. I have never been able to tell that the car was repaired when returned to me. The car is consistently spotless and returned to me in better condition than when it left the factory. This means no squeaks or rattles or trim panels or anything left such that you can tell it was taken apart. I even let the dealer detail this car and was really impressed.
In the end I'm not sure what I'll do when the warranty is up. I vow in the meantime to be as big a pain in the ass as possible by immediately calling the dealer if anything goes wrong. I figure that I'm costing them a lot of money evertime I bring the car in and therefore maybe will get their attention to their build quality and design issues. I think that this is a great and safe car to drive that has been designed to be overcomplicated. As with anything complicated it is likely to break at some point.
Good luck with your problems.
#64 of 87 No problems to date.
Dec 15, 2004 (7:35 am)
Bought a 2003 C240 4matic wagon in July, certified with 24,500 miles on it. I drive roughy 900 miles per week, this car now has almost 36,000 miles. Have not had one problem or complaint to date. Its quick, quiet, and very solid in every aspect. It drives like a sports car. Service calls are painless, dealer is great. Getting between 26-27 mpg on the highway, which is mostly what I drive at 75+mph. Just bought a second one this month, certified with 19,000 miles for my wife as she liked the first one so much.
#65 of 87 Re: No problems to date. [gogomikey01]
Dec 29, 2004 (6:59 pm)
Same here. Got a 2004 C320 4matic wagon. Sweet little car. I chauffeur the kids back & forth from college. Gas mileage is great. As good as 29mpg in an empty car w/2 people. The wagon got a little scratched-up. Needed to replace the fender and moldings. Now, it looks great, again. They did an excellent job on the desert silver paint as they tell me it's a difficult paint to match. For the next car, I'd like to get the SLK350.
#66 of 87 One year review
Feb 21, 2005 (9:51 am)
Got my 240C wagon with 4matic 12 months ago. First couple of months the car hesitated so badly when starting from a stop, or low speed, that I thought it had stalled. The dealer gave me all sorts of BS about the car learning how I drive, etc....several service visits later I finally went directly to the service mgr, and he said...oh yeah, it's a common problem...so they 're-charged' the computer, and it has been perfect ever since. I think the heat/ac controls are primitive..much better in the 320...also resent the fact that the seats are partly manual and non-heated( so I've been forced to get sheepskins). My best mileage has been 24 on the highway. I find the driving experience good, with plenty of extra power at speed, but a bit sluggish when leaving the toll booth. All in all, I like the car, but regret not having gotten a 320.
#67 of 87 Looking for the right MB
Apr 25, 2005 (5:05 am)
I am looking to buy maybe a 2001 MB C240. Can anyone give me some insight on this car. Thanks
#68 of 87 C320S, 2004.5 wagon, Sunroof Rain Sensor works?
May 22, 2005 (8:38 am)
Morning all, to introduce ourselves.
Have had our 2004 since late Jun 25, 2004, Mfd in Feb 2004 w/documented US dealer receipt inspection w/12 miles on Odo, the same month. Essentially trouble free use for the past 11 months except for having an automatic transmission programming problem after owning it for two weeks. Part had to come from Germany, so my wife drove around in a dealer provided Enterprise leased MBZ for about a week.
Just had our first A service about 700 miles before the computer said it was needed (done at 12,292 miles), Cost $0.00, after reset, the computer says we have 10K to go before the first B service. Since our car was covered by the computer driven maintenance service schedule, there was no free 1000 mile inspection.
Dealer has been very good on a couple of warranty issues: replaced the pull out rear cargo cover because a plastic part broke off, the replacement shade doesn't retract with as much force so I think MBZ changed something in their newer shades; replaced one of those little black plastic edges at the top of the black trim on the door pilar, our detailer caught it in his cleaning materials and broke off about half the piece; and of course fixed the transmission problem.
Mileage: My wife uses this for real estate, so she gets a lot of in town use. Averaging 20mpg in and around town and 26 on road trips to Tucson from Las Vegas to visit grandkids.
Now to my question. Gave the dealer a list of things to fix while the car was in for the A service, couldn't verify a couple (rattle in left shoulder belt fitting right at my left ear while driving at speed on highway -- that goes a way a while when you beat on the plastic covering) and squeek behind radio (that I don't hear but my wife does.) One other thing we mentioned was that the sunroof rain sensor didn't work. How did we know, because one time when we had an infrequent rain and my wife had parked the car with the sunroof open, the car was rained on and of course got quite wet inside.
Their response, we don't have a rain sensor so there was nothing they could fix.
Went back and pulled out my window sticker and confirmed that sure enough we'd paid for a "value added package #324 Sunroof package w/ autodimming Dr & Rrvw Mirror, Rain Sensor, Glass Sunroof".
Before I go screaming back to the dealer, maybe I just don't know how the sunroof rain sensor works. I can't find instructions anywhere in all my documents and manuals and the MBZ site is also silent.
Can anyone tell me the conditions under which the rain sensor is supposed to work and how?
Chuck Parker, Las Vegas, NV
#69 of 87 Re: C320S, 2004.5 wagon, Sunroof Rain Sensor works? [charlesp]
May 22, 2005 (1:03 pm)
While I am not 100% sure i believe what you paid for was a rain sensor for the windshield wipers. This sensor is most likely located in the rear view mirror assembly. The sensor activates the wipers when it detects rain and varys their speed based on the amount of rain.
Far as i know there isn't a rain sensor in the sunroof.