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Re: 10 tips to cut car costs [qbrozen] by lemko
Mar 07, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Mar 07, 2008 8:17 am)

Let's go a bit further - who needs the expense of registering a car or the inconvenience of a license? Of course, there are plenty of people in Philly who forgo the expense of insurance, registration, or a license.
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Re: Sorry can't agree with you [british_rover] by jeffyscott
Mar 07, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 06, 2008 3:36 pm)

Our brand is running 3.9 APR...and the interest rate is well below what you can earn in a decent money market account or CD
 
You must have missed the recent plunge in interest rates, you are pretty unlikely to earn 3.9% in those safe investments right now. My MM is down to about 3.6%. Then you would have to pay tax on whatever you do earn, so even though you could earn fairly close to 3.9%, the after-tax yield would be well below the 3.9%, that you would be paying (with after-tax dollars) on the loan.
 
That said, if somone does not have the cash, that rate would be a good deal...assuming you are not charging an inflated price for the car, to offset the discounted interest rate..
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Re: Sorry can't agree with you [jeffyscott] by british_rover
Mar 07, 2008 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 07, 2008 12:44 pm)

There are still some places where you can get close to 3.9 percent and maybe even above it. Just checking E*Trades rates from my account and they are under 3.9 percent now but that only just happened. I am sure if you spent some time hunting you could find some slightly higher rates and if you are less risk adverse you could always find much more profitable investments that would earn enough to beat the 3.9% and pay any taxes.
 
I also doubt rates will stay this low for long. You are better off to lock in the low interest rate for 3, 4 or 5 years then hang onto your cash to put into better investments later then tying up thousands of dollars in a depreciating asset.
 
The 3.9% comes from the manufacturer as part of the CPO program so it is independent of the price of the vehicle as long as it meets the CPO guidelines.
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Re: Sorry can't agree with you [british_rover] by jeffyscott
Mar 07, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Mar 07, 2008 1:39 pm)

if you are less risk adverse you could always find much more profitable investments that would earn enough to beat the 3.9% and pay any taxes
 
You could find things that you hope will beat the 3.9%...but when you move beyond things that are essentially risk free that is comparing two different things. Not taking the 3.9% loan is a risk free 3.9% after taxes. With a combined state and federal marginal tax rate of 30%, one would have to earn about 5.6% before taxes.
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Re: 10 tips to cut car costs [joesmith2] by mattandi
Mar 07, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: joesmith2 (Mar 06, 2008 2:51 pm)

Your advice was to commit fraud to save a few bucks. You deserved some flack. Now you reveal even more fraud to cover your original lie.
 
You don't like insurance companies. Fine.
 
I don't like lairs.
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Re: 10 tips to cut car costs [joesmith2] by jeffyscott
Mar 08, 2008 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: joesmith2 (Mar 06, 2008 2:51 pm)

In other words, you buy insurance, your car gets stolen, and they give you what they think your car is worth, even if it's less than the premium you paid.
 
Not sure what this is supposed to mean . That is exactly what an insurance company promises...that they will give you the actual cash value of your car if it is stolen. The price of this protection is the premium paid for "comprehensive". If you don't like the price, you don't have to buy that coverage and you take on the risk of loss yourself.
 
The reality is you are not stealing from the insurance company, you are stealing from all the honest policy holders. We have to pay higher premiums to cover the cost of fraud by others.
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Go ahead, kick me off your lame forum by joesmith2
Mar 08, 2008 (6:20 am)
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I wonder how long this post is going to last? If I do want to post, it takes me a whole 5 miuntes to create a new id, along with new email address. And don't bother flagging my IP address, it changes everytime I log on.
 
I've been nice. But if you make car payments, you're a fool. And part of the reason the country is in a credit crisis.

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