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I drove a 67 galaxie with a 390 auto daily for around 5 years and the only reason I quit driving it daily was I am extremly pairanoid that somebody here at college will screw with it. I did eventually rebuild the engine after 2 years but it still ran good before I did it. It just blew huge amounts of smoke at startup and had low compression on two cylinders. Mine got around 15mpg before the rebuild and around 18mpg after which really isn't that bad. The galaxie is a hell of a lot more comfortable to ride around in then the 93 nissian truck I drive daily now. The only real problem I had with the galaxie was the breaks. It has non-power all wheel drum breaks and well they really aren't up to stopping 4000+lbs of steel You might want to consider finding one where somebody has dropped a 350 and trans out of a newer camaro in it. |
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| A few years ago while living in upstate NY I drove a 65 Chevy pickup that absoulutely NEVER let me down on a 75 mile per day roundtrip commute. The straight 6 and 3 speed made for a very reliable drivetrain. Not a lot of power or much top end but hey...when your paintjob is 3 shades of primer you're really not out to impress.The only real negative was that winter rides were a bit chilly and summer rides rather warm. I now live in Florida and drive a 75 BMW 2002 with a 40 mile roundtrip commute and the experience is almost identical to my 65 Chevy ride in that the BMW 4 cylinder 4 speed won't stop running(over 160 K now).The only negative here is the dealer installed A/C units rob you of the little hp it already has. My "dream" classic car would have to be a 66 GTO, but until I win the lottery I'll stick to my sub $3K underpowered boxes that are simple to work on, get decent gas mileage and hardly ever visit the shop. | |
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| thanks, I'm looking at 60's Chevy pickups right now and will probably buy one this summer as a back up to my 81 C10 that is my daily driver. I will have about a little under 60 mile round trip daily drive to the university I will be going to. I just don't like cars, I don't like being or driving in them. I like the seating positions of trucks, and the head room. | |
| when new and investigate the availability in the aftermarket of parts you might need. Chevelle sounds pretty good. Layson's has been invaluable for me as they've built an entire business manufacturing repro parts for Mopar A-bodies [INCLUDING the 60-66 models]and I've found lots of stuff that I can get new that stopped being readily available in junk yards over time.It helps. | |
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...is that they changed so little over the years. I recently had to get ball joints for my '68 Dart, and I believe they're the same part from 1967-1976 (except for cars equipped with disc brakes). Conversely, I had to get ball joints for my '67 Catalina, and they were only the same part for 1967-1968. And they were not compatible with an equivalent Chevy, Buick, or Olds! Seems that Mopar learned about interchangability long before GM did! Dweezil, what is Layson's? I've been using Kanter Auto parts to get hard-to-find stuff, but it's always nice to find new sources! -Andre PS: You got any pics of that Valiant? |
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From my days managing a shop, I remember the full sized Pontiacs used a very small lower ball joint compared to even a Chevy. On 65-66 Pontiacs you had to replace the entire lower control arm. Pontiacs like yours were also hard on control arm bushings and center links. |
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thanks for the info. Guess I should stay out of the potholes then, eh? I wonder why they'd make stuff like that SMALLER on a Pontiac, especially considering full-size Pontiacs usually ran a couple hundred pounds heavier than an equivalent Chevy! Oh yeah, I looked up some info on my DeSoto in a shop manual a friend gave me. Turns out that thing only runs on 14"x6" rims! I knew about the 14" part, but didn't know how narrow the rim was. The Firesweeps were even worse...14"x5.5"! No wonder those old cars handled so poorly! I have a set of 15x7" road wheels that came off my '79 Newport (same 4.5" bolt pattern). I wonder what it would do to the handling if I put those on it, with some 70-series tires? Of course, I'd never do it, because cars like this just look naked without the wide whitewalls, and I don't know how much clearance something like that would have in the rear wheel well. Always wondered how it would affect handling, though! -Andre |
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Well,
That's because the tires used on cars of that era actually had very narrow tread widths.
Take my Vauxhall. (You did see the new pics I hope). Originally it used a 6.40X13. The original spare is still an old "Goodyear all-weather rib" bias-play 6.40X13. However, now I run on a set of 185-80SR13s. While the overall diameter is about the same, the tread with alone has to be 50% wider than the old bias-ply tire.
Your car probaby used something like a 7.75X14 or 8.00X14 originally. To keep the overall diameter the same, you'll have to use either a reproduction bias-ply tire (Check http://www.coker.com for ideas) which will wear and handle like crap and cost at least $600 a set, or you'd use either a 215-75-14 or 205-75-14. I'd say that a 8.00X14 is probably the equivalent, sizewise, of something like a 185-90-14 (Non-existant size) if it had to be converted to a modern size.
Also, the narrower the rim, the better the ride quality and poorer the handling as a rule. The wider the rim, vice-versa.
I'd get a set of BFGoodrich Silvertown Radials which are modern all-season tires that come in sizes that will work on classics with the wide whitewalls, or you may be able to find something called a "Broadway Classic" (Private label similar to the BFG Silvertown) or Coker makes something called a Coker Classic. However, like everything else they carry, they are pretty expensive. Bill |
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Just saw the pics of your Vauxhall...that's a neat little car! My DeSoto actually ran on 8.50x14 rims, and I think 8.55x14 was optional. Why .05 would make that much of a difference is beyond me. Funny you'd mention Coker tire...that's where I bought the new bias ply's for it back in 1993! It was long overdue, too. One of the tires on the car was a re-tread with an inner tube, and for all I know could've been one of the original tires on the car! My '67 Catalina has 215/75-14's on it (not sure what it would've had originally, but that's what was on it when I bought it), and it handles pretty well...for something that big and that old! But yeah, for the most part, the DeSoto handles handles horribly with those original-style tires! As far as the kind of mileage I'm putting on the DeSoto, I probably haven't even gone 2,000 miles since I bought the new tires, so I'm sure those tires will dry-rot before they wear out! -Andre PS: I knew you lived in Florida, but didn't realize U were in Orlando! I shoulda looked you up when I was down there, except that all we did was work...no fun time, except for a trip to Islands Of Adventure our last day there. |
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Hey gang, I've been thinking about converting my '68 Dart from points to electronic ignition for years, but have been too lazy to put forth the effort. I know Mopar Performance used to put out a kit, but I can't find anything now about it. I'm wondering though...would it be worth the effort on a car like this? I've heard that it will improve performance and fuel economy a bit. Right now, the car's 318 gets about 13 mpg city/17 highway, so anything would be an improvment. If nothing else, I hate changing the points and condenser with a passion, so I figured it might be worth it just to reduce that hassle. Anybody got any insight/opinions/advice? Oh yeah, the car has about 338,000 miles on it, but only about 97,000 on the rebuilt engine. -Andre |
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