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#264 of 305
by ateixeira
Jun 21, 2004 (9:50 am)
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Nope - those capacities are in Australia, for the Australian models, which might use different springs, shocks, and tires, all affecting the payload and tow capacities.
 
I'm not sure that the US version is rated to tow at all, but check into it.
 
What are you planning on towing? If it's a small utility trailer, under 1000 lbs, most likely anything will pull it.
 
But honestly, have you ever watched a FWD vehicle pull a jet ski up a wet ramp? It ain't pretty. Remember, weight shifts to the rear tires, which get no power.
 
A lot of the cars you're shopping are, in my opinion, basically hatchbacks. At least the Vibe and Matrix offer AWD, but only with 123hp. That's not gonna do so well hauling a trailer.
 
Expand your list to include the Subaru Outback Sport (not the big Outback), you get AWD and 165hp. That will do much, much better pulling your jet ski up the ramp. Maybe even a matching pair of jet skis. And AWD means no ugly tire spin noises. 2005s are supposed to get better mileage, the heavier Forester gets 23/30 now, for instance.
 
I think you can get AWD in a Suzuki Aerio, also. Those had 140hp and IIRC were getting a power boost this year.
 
Other options? Try a small SUV, like the Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, or Subaru Forester. You can get basic models of those for about $19k. All have engines 2.4l or bigger and AWD as options.
 
The Honda gets 21/25, the Toyota varies but some models get up to 28mpg, and the Subie now gets 23/30 (2005 models), so all are fairly efficient.
 
Good luck.
 
-juice
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ewmavm by ewmavm
Jul 31, 2004 (10:45 am)
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I sold my chevy pickup truck and have only a 93 T-Bird which I intend to keep as it has been a great car for us but we need something that has hauling capacity for fairly large objects,gets great gas mileage, looks good (not clunky) not too big, not too small and hope to keep the price under $25,000.
Could be a smaller SUV or a wagon. Oh yes,
and has ample power to take on the hills.
#266 of 305
by ateixeira
Aug 01, 2004 (3:53 pm)
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Define great gas mileage? The base Forester, RAV4, or CR-V will manage that.
 
If those are big hills, try a turbo Forester, which offers ample performance and still reasonable gas mileage. Though it likes a premium fuel diet.
 
-juice
#267 of 305
Brought home my new Saab 9-2X today! by jlangdon
Aug 02, 2004 (7:56 pm)
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And I just love her!!! I have pedigree dogs that need transportation fairly often, so the 9-2X is the perfect size to haul them comfortably. I also have a 60-mile-per-day commute to work and I need safety, reliability and comfort. Lastly, I wanted a vehicle that was sporty, peppy, and looked great. The 9-2X fits the bill, and the free oil changes/maintenance and Saab extras completed the sale.
 
The Pontiac Vibe was my second choice; that's a really neat vehicle! But since I live in a tropical climate with freak storms and slippery roads, I opted for the Saab's extra safety features and all-wheel-drive. Those extras gave me more insurance discounts, too.
 
Glad the wagons and hatchbacks are making a comeback!!! I'm sick to death of drivers who are encased in SUV's that are clearly too big for them to handle well. I dislike the SUV gas-guzzling quality, too.
 
Julie
#268 of 305
by ateixeira
Aug 03, 2004 (9:03 am)
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Congrats, Julie. I think you're the first owner here on the Town Hall.
 
-juice
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Re: [ateixeira] by jlangdon
Aug 04, 2004 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 03, 2004 9:03 am)

Thanks, Juice! The dealer said I'm the first 9-2X owner south of San Antonio, too, LOL. Ours is the only Saab dealership for 250 miles; Subaru isn't around here, either. I do have a friend who has a Subaru Forester, but she bought it in San Antonio.
 
I saw a new Lexus wagon on the road today -- not all that impressive and probably costs big bucks! I'm really happy with my car.
 
Julie
#270 of 305
by ateixeira
Aug 05, 2004 (4:55 am)
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Yeah, AWD is probably not the most popular option in Texas! Subies were rare until the turbos started showing up.
 
Did you see a Lexus IS300 Sportcross? I test drove a sedan the other day with the wife, IMO it's ready for an update.
 
-juice
#272 of 305
Looks sharp! by ateixeira
Aug 05, 2004 (9:06 am)
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Now that is one sharp looking 5 door! Subtle changes from the Golf but it looks 10 times better.
 
-juice
#273 of 305
by wale_bate1
Aug 05, 2004 (2:36 pm)
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According to Automotive News (8/4) the Jag X-Type Estate will come here in November or so.
 
You know, a few years back, that really might have meant something to me, but now? Now there's a wagon in need of an update!
 
On the SportCross (IS300 in general): it should have had some sort of mid-span update in '03 (pony increase, minor cosmetics, etc.); this year at the latest. Now it's just a question of flowing some units until the new IS hits next year. Unfortunately, there probably won't be a wagon, and unfortunately, it'll get bigger.
 
And Julie? Take it from a 9-2X admirer who owns the Lexus wagon: it's still very impressive from the driver's seat! That's because it's deliciously un-Lexus like to drive!
 
Have fun with your new toy!

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