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#218 of 305 Another intresting thing is... by gmalltheway Sep 06, 2003 (4:40 am)
would this mean Honda might have to come out with a V8??? I wouldn't want even a Honda V6 in something that looks that big... For example the Base model Chevy Silverado with a 4.3L V6, talk about slow!!!
#219 of 305 honda v8? by qbrozen Sep 06, 2003 (7:01 am)
The Pilot is over 4400 lbs. and gets along quite well with the current v6 and 5-speed auto. As a matter of fact, its quicker than several v8 trucks I could name.
#220 of 305 But still.... by gmalltheway Sep 07, 2003 (6:04 am)
the "truck" by Honda could never really compete with Silverado/F-150/Ram/EVEN Tundra without 4wd and good towing compacity and neither of those will come without a V8 and more low end torque.
#221 of 305 gmalltheway by robr2 Sep 07, 2003 (7:01 am)
I don't think the Honda truck has any aspiration of replacing the F150, Silverado, Ram, et all as a heavy hauling truck. AFAIK, the Honda truck will be offered in a full 4 door only with Pilot underpinnings - 6 cylinder only although Honda supposedly has access to GM V-8's as part of it's V-6 supply contract.   It will probably target the traditional Honda buyer who now leaves the fold when the need for a truck arises. They want the Honda ride and quality with pickup truck utility without having to pay for poor gas mileage and rough ride everyday. IMHO, it will target my family who wants the 4 door utility for family hauling but needs to haul plants, mulch, and the occasional bathtub. The AWD really isn't a required feature for us but I presume that's the only way it'll be offered.   Honda recognizes that it's customers go elsewhere for certain vehicles. That's why it created the current Odyssey, CRV, and Pilot.
#222 of 305 Rough ride??? by gmalltheway Sep 07, 2003 (1:41 pm)
I guess you havn't riden in a Silverado lately... well i have and it's far from a Rough Ride, and i've heard many things about the New f-150 and how it has a "car-like" ride.
#223 of 305 gmalltheway by robr2 Sep 07, 2003 (3:04 pm)
You are right - the 03 GMC I recently drove had a better ride than the trucks I usually drive:   an 89 F150 an 88 Dodge Ram 50 a 98 Toyota Tacoma.   I guess what I meant is that the Honda truck will probably handle close to the vehicle it is based on - basically the Accord and it won't have to contend with carrying around a frame and transfer case. It will be a more of a trucklet. It will take some sales away from the big 3 by keeping current Honda owners but not enough to make a difference. Those guys need to watch out for Nissan and Toyota.   I'd be more inclined to drive this trucklet than a real truck in my everyday commuting life.
#224 of 305 robr2- "carlike" truck by xplorx4 Sep 07, 2003 (8:22 pm)
My guess is that the Honda truck, in addition to providing a more carlike ride, will also have very good fuel economy and low emissions. This new vehicle will basically compete with smaller vehicles like the Frontier CrewCab, the Subaru Baja, and the Tacoma 4dr. It will be interesting to see how the vehicle is classified; trucks do not have to conform to the same safety standards as cars.
#225 of 305 by ateixeira Sep 08, 2003 (12:03 pm)
I agree with robr2, in that the Pilot Crew Cab won't try to compete with GM. Honda has an existing customer base of about 6 trillion customers, plus or minus a few, but you get the point.   The Pilot cannot tow without the owner adding a power steering cooler and a tranny cooler. Even then, IIRC capacity is 3500 lbs. Maybe they'll make those two coolers standard on the Crew Cab, but I doubt they'll go much beyond that.   Sales volumes won't be huge, but if they use the existing Pilot for most of it, it won't cost them much, and they could build it side by side.   It'll be a niche vehicle, though, not a high volume segment buster.   -juice
#226 of 305 2004 Jaguar X-Type Estate. by revka Sep 24, 2003 (9:49 am)
"Moving a bit beyond the aloof socialite market, and further into the family segment, Jaguar introduces its first ever station wagon, the X-Type Estate."   Read the full story here. Also, come share your thoughts in our new 2004 Jaguar X-Type Estate discussion.     Thanks for your comments!   Revka Host of Hatchbacks & Wagons
#227 of 305 sigh by qbrozen Sep 24, 2003 (10:26 am)
I mourn the death of jaguar.

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