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305 messages, Last post on Aug 09, 2008 at 8:36 PM
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Boxy rear looks better than the sedan, but I bet it gets that same ugly face. Bangle is ruining BMW design. -juice |
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| The butt looks bloated to me. The rear quarter around the wheel well looks like it needs to be trimmed up slightly. | |
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C'Mon, Acura... you know we want it! Jump on in to the crossover waters!! Ah, a TSX PShop-wagon isn't what I want...  Yikes! Be careful what you wish for!! http://www.jdpa.com/businessservices/automotive/publications/powe- rreport/200307/0703_ss1.htm |
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They already make a euro Accord wagon, so it would be cake. Add AWD and lift it slightly and voila, you have a crossover. -juice |
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| I'd take a TSX wagon as-is! | |
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I would too, but it's tough to make a business case for plain wagons in the US. -juice |
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Help. I have a family with two teenagers, a pre-teen, and a child. I have driven a full-size van for the last 12 years and now want a smaller vehicle that has fun new features, a sun roof, a comfortable ride, is quiet inside, gets good gas mileage, has rear air conditioning control (I would also prefer dual front air control), and really fits the 6 of us. I do not want a mini-van (just tired of vans. I'd like to hear from anyone who has bought or even tried out some good vehicles for 6. Are any of the future ones worth waiting for, or are there some good choices out there now? I have been searching and comparing vehicles on this site for quite a while, but I have to go a long way before I find out if it only seats 5. For example, I just decided to consider wagons since many of the new ones are quite sporty looking. But they don't tell me right off how many they seat. Or if I ask for comparison vehicles to something like the Honda Pilot which seats 8, it puts up others that only seat 5. I have driven and considered the Chrysler Pacifica, Volvo S80 (actually can get 4 in the back seat), and the Acura MDX. I would like to see a Honda Pilot but can't locate one in my area, and received a message from Edmunds that local dealers would contact me, but that was a week ago and I haven't heard anything. I have not driven them yet, but I understand that I can get a bench front seat for the Toyota Avalon and the Dodge Intrepid. But Edmunds comments that the Avalon is pricey and I suspect that the Intrepid is not close enough to the luxury ride that I would like to come close to for an in-between price. My husband wants to consider a Ford Expedition because they are on sale in our area for about $6,000 off right now, but I haven't driven one and your site says that it drives as big as it looks. I don't want another BIG car! We've looked at vehicles priced up to $40,000, most being in the $35,000 range. However, my husband would like to stay in the $25-30,000 price range, and I suspect I may need to go with a used vehicle to hit that. Any comments about the vehicles that I have mentioned, or about any wagons or other vehicles, new or used, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
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Wow...it sounds like you are looking for the Holy Grail of family transportation. Here are my thoughts... 1) If you're coming out of a full size van, and need comfortable seating for 6, scratch those sedans off your list right away! Yeah the avalon does offer a bench front seat - but the middle occupant rides second class due to the hump on the floor from the driveshaft. Also, I believe there is no headrest for the middle seat either. The plus of the avalon is that it is in your price range. 2) While the "sport wagons" are nice, only a few offer additional seating for more than 5. You might consider the Pacifica in this group - but I think it tends to emphasize luxury cruiser, not sporty. The other true wagons with the extra seats have a third row that is rear-facing in the cargo area. These seats are only suitable for kids and some question the safety of these seats. 3) SUV's that seat more than 5 with good gas milage (read >17 MPG in the city) are few. The Honda Pilot, Acura MDX, and Volvo XC90 with the 2.5T engine are ones that come to mind. The honda would be the value leader of the group and comes closest to your husband's target price. The ride in the Pilot is a little less "sportier" than the MDX. But if you have test driven the MDX, you will have a pretty good idea as to what to expect with the Pilot's ride. Don't expect Honda dealers calling you about the Pilot (even with you're inquiry). If you're interested in it, I think you'll have to be more proactive due to the demand for the vehicle. 4) I know you said no minivan, but the Toyota Sienna and Nissan quest have a lot of what you are looking for. Just my few cents. Good luck George |
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| I dunno...Volvo, Subaru, and VW seem to do ok with their wagon offerings. A TSX wagon would never be a volume leader, but all the engineering grunt work has already been done. It wouldn't require a huge investment, other than certification and marketing. I'd buy one. | |
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Could be, I'd like to see it. Seats for 6? Vans are generally more fuel efficient, since you mentioned that, but check out the Pilot, Rendezvous, MDX, Pacifica, etc. -juice |
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