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#830 of 3348 '02 Explorer question by jposter
Jun 11, 2002 (8:09 pm)
If you are buying you will need every bit of that $5.5K and then some to help make up for Explorer depreciation. I'd bet even with the deep Explorer discounts the Pilot will come up with much lower total cost of ownership in the end. A scary case in point, in 1997 I paid $27K for Explorer XLT (after $3K discount). A Honda CRV was running around $19K at that time, with nowhere near the level of equipment. Fast forward to today, that CRV is selling for $2K - $3K MORE than the Explorer. OUCH! I'm not saying a CRV would have worked for my needs, but the stark reality of this hurts. While the tire episode and ongoing Explorer SUV glut certainly did not help, the 2002 Explorers are already down to 37 or 38% residual on 3-yr lease. I did some quick math today, I could be wrong, but it seems with lease incentives Ford now has to float to get buyers into Explorers and help cover this level of depreciation, I can lease for 3-yrs, and if I bought it out at the end, I would have spent less overall than if I would have purchased it outright including all incentives, financing a portion, etc. (plus have the option of walking out at 3 years and letting Ford take it in the shorts). That would be an interesting twist.
#831 of 3348 Reply to jposter on A/C cooling
Jun 12, 2002 (6:49 pm)
I have an early 2002 XLT V-6 that does an adequate job of cooling. All A/C since about the
94 model year have has been non freon.
Today it was 92 here in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Hot, but not up to Texas standards, but
the humidity was about 50% which is more humid
than usual. The car sat out with the front
windows open and the rear hatch open for an
hour at midday. It was hot, but not super heat
soaked like it would have been if the car had
been closed. Within 5 min. of start up at 30 mph (about 1,200 rpm) a therm. in the middle
vents was reading 60. Fan on 3rd speed pulling
in outside air (not in MAX AC). Once on the
road at 65 mph incoming air temp. was in the low 50's. Selecting MAX AC (recirculated air) put
the temp. down another 5 deg.
After a shaded short stop for fuel it was stop
and go with max 45 mph between stops. Outside
air was 92 and incoming air was 60 with a 5 deg.
rise in temp. while at stop lights. Going to
MAX AC dropped the temp. to 55 with the same
about 5 deg. increase at stop lights. All this
was with the fan speed on 3rd speed. The car has rear A/C & heat, but it was not operating.
There is some advantage after start up, with a hot car, to using less than the max. fan speed
and normal AC. Too fast a fan speed passes the
air over the heat exchanger so fast it has little time to remove heat, and even 92 deg. air
is cooler than the 120 or so air in the car that you are recirculating when in MAX AC. Once
the air in the car reaches something close to
the outside air temp selecting MAX AC results in
a quicker cooldown.
Works for me.
#832 of 3348 Keeping it...
Jun 13, 2002 (10:29 pm)
Have had my 2002 1/2 Explorer XLT for almost three weeks now, almost 1000 miles. Only defect is the rear lift gate needs to be shut firmly or else it tends to not be fully closed. A/C performed well in nearly 100 heat today, as did the v6 with A/C on max both front and rear.
I also was concerned with the rapid depreciation that the Explorer suffers when I bought it. However, waiting god knows how long for a Pilot was not something I could do. Also like the looks of the Explorer much better. I plan on keeping this car 8-10 years at least, so depreciation won't be an issue. Most likely an extended warranty will be in my future, but I think I would have bought one if I had purchased a Pilot or other car. If you only plan on keeping an Explorer for four or five years, you probably should lease it or you will take it in the pants $$ wise. I have friends and neighbors with Explorers from the early and mid 90's who are still very satisfied with them, so take that for what it is worth, I know I did.
#833 of 3348 Question for Expy01
Jun 14, 2002 (2:53 am)
I saw the link you provided for 2003 Explorers a few posts ago. Where did you find this? Was there information on other 2003 Fords (ie. Expeditions, Windstars, etc)? I tried playing with the link but had no luck finding out about others (but did the Explorer). Thank you for sharing.
#834 of 3348 To autolover...
Jun 14, 2002 (9:14 am)
Just scroll up or down. All of the fords and lincolns were there.
#836 of 3348 To autolover..a follow up.
Jun 14, 2002 (9:16 am)
If the 2003 model is not listed, the information has probably not been issued by Ford.
Jun 14, 2002 (10:22 am)
I will try that. Thank you!
#838 of 3348 Storage behind 3rd row.
Jun 17, 2002 (6:15 pm)
Anyone ave the figure for how much storage space is behind the 3rd row? (I am assuming it is usable)
#839 of 3348 Space behind 3rd row is...
Jun 18, 2002 (4:17 am)
13.8 cubic feet. Practicaly speaking, it's only about a foot from the gate to the back of the seat. It's usable, but you're not going to stow the gear of all those people you're seating in three rows!