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#3054 of 3348 Mercury Mountaineer front end parts
Jan 11, 2006 (5:56 pm)
I have recently traded my 2002 AWD Mountaineer. It had the 4.6L V-8. I really liked the car and it was so good in the ice and snow we have here in the NC mountains. But, 47,000 miles and out of warranty, the front end began to rumble. Sounded like a wheel bearing. Top local mechanic agreed so we setup a change-out. Cost of the part from NAPA Auto Parts $349.00, (wow!) Well NAPA called right back and said they could not supply the part. Called local Ford dealer, same thing. They said on "National Backorder". After two-weeks, the rumble was getting toward a growl. Local Advance guy could not get the part either and further said the part was French made and this was the reason for the unavailability. (Although Advance has it on their web site; it is still unavailable). The Advance guy added that he had knowledge that the front end of the 2002 Mountaineer was all French made, (Renault), and manufactured for a 3000 lb car with a V-6. When the application was into a 4,600 lb car with a V-8; it just was too much. My question is; is any part of this true? I panicked and gave the Merc a "good-country-trading" but I hated to do it.
#3055 of 3348 Northanna
Jan 11, 2006 (9:13 pm)
"The Advance guy added that he had knowledge that the front end of the 2002 Mountaineer was all French made, (Renault), and manufactured for a 3000 lb car with a V-6."
No, but funny how such rumors would spread. This rumor might have come because the some of the transmissions (for the V6) are built in France, while the engine is built in Cologne Germany. As for the front end, it's designed specifically for Ford, and not designed by anyone else or used anywhere else for that matter.
As it is, and comparison (depending how much you might know about front ends), Renault doesn't even build anything remotely that could accomodate an Explorer type of front end.
Or the french remark could have come out because Ford in a joint venture with Peugeot share design and manufacturing of a diesel engine used in various Ford of Europe products.
You might have a french part here and there, but it's not the whole front end for that matter.
Maybe he had a personal agenda of his own against the french maybe ? I mean, I ticked off a jewish acquaintence once when she boasted she only bought american, etc.etc and I mentioned to her, that her Explorer's engine was built in Cologne Germany... That car only lasted 2 more months in her driveway after I told her that...
#3056 of 3348 Re: Mercury Mountaineer front end parts [northanna44]
Jan 12, 2006 (8:10 am)
Let me get this straight: An approximate $500 repair on a 50,000 mile vehicle caused you to "panic" and buy a new vehicle? HUH?
C'mon. You wanted a new vehicle and this relatively minor repair was a great excuse to splurge for one. I don't like out of warranty repairs either, but in the big scheme of car ownership, this was a molehole that you made a mountain out of.
#3057 of 3348 Re: Mercury Mountaineer front end parts [daryll44]
Jan 12, 2006 (5:04 pm)
Totally agree.... There's nothing wrong with that, I've done it myself. Once I was just out of patience with a car....and traded it in a huff..... Could have had it fixed under warranty at no expense.
#3058 of 3348 Re: Mercury Mountaineer front end parts [daryll44]
Jan 14, 2006 (1:52 am)
It was not the $500 as much as it was the dead-end I had run into getting the part. NAPA, Advance and Ford all said it was "unavailable". Ford parts guy used the term
"National Back Order". The grinding was getting worst by the day and since My wife used that car to get to work; I needed it fixed and in a reasonably quick time. Sure, I like a new car as well as the next guy; but given the situation as stated, what would you have done?
#3059 of 3348 Re: Northanna [ANT14]
Jan 14, 2006 (2:09 am)
I still don't understand why the part was "unavailable" and on what the Ford guy called "National Back Order". I seemed to me that a guy with a Mountaineer with this problem was at a dead-end. The front wheel bearing was not going to cure itself; so park it or trade it seemed to be the only solutions. With those options, I could easily be persuaded that all Mountaineers were built by Commies in Red China and the front end was originally designed for a rickshaw.
#3060 of 3348 Re: one big difference... [explorerx4]
Jan 14, 2006 (5:01 am)
I would prefer to have the AWD as opposed to the 4WD. I also think Ford did a wonderful job with the 06 versions. The thing I like the most is the quiet ride I read about. That is tough to achieve in an SUV with their high Cds. Can anyone attest to the fact that the 06s are quieter than the previous versions??
#3061 of 3348 Re: Mercury Mountaineer front end parts [northanna44]
Jan 14, 2006 (11:36 am)
What would I have done? I'll tell you exactly:
I would have worked at managing the problem instead of knee-jerk throwing big money at it. This is a manageable smallish problem that was really more of a nusance than a problem.
For instance, any decent repair shop/dealer understands that sometimes things like this happen and they often can be creative. Maybe they could get a used part, even if only temporary, from a junk yard. Or maybe they needed to hunt better for the part. Certainly SOME dealer SOMEWHERE (with the huge volume of Ford dealers over this great land) has that part in inventory for FEDEX to you. Or maybe a call from you direct to a Ford zone rep could have gotten some result.
I just can't buy that something like a wheel bearing was so rare and caused so much uncertainty that it was worth buying a new car. Decision-making processes like that destroy wealth and certainly prevent the accumulation of wealth. I hate uncertainty too, but I have learned that living with a reasonable amount of it pays big rewards versus always needing certainty.
Sorry to beat you up but you asked what I would do...so I answered and explained why.
#3062 of 3348 Real World MPG
Jan 18, 2006 (12:01 pm)
Can anyone with a 2002-2005 model Explorer give me real world mpg on a V-6 and V-8 Explorer? I am looking into buying a used one and am interested to know the gas mileage that owners are currently getting.
#3063 of 3348 Re: Real World MPG [illini7]
Jan 18, 2006 (1:29 pm)
Here up and down the hills of Pittsburgh we are getting 13.5 to 14 in the city and 19 on the highway in our 2003 Mountaineer (Explorer clone) V8 with AWD. I suspect a flatter topography would be 1 or 2 MPG better. In other words, the 14/19 window sticker is about what we are getting in the real world.