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#2607 of 3320 daryl44 by marsha7 Jun 20, 2005 (5:50 pm)
I have a tendency to agree...I was fed up with Detroit iron in the 1970s and 1980s, and I bought 4 Hondas in that time...my last two, in 1988, lasted until 1998 and 2001, 160K and 180K miles...I wanted to give Detroit another chance so in 2004 I bought a Dodge Truck and Crown Vic...very happy with Dodge, Crown Vic very nice but it could be a little more modernized, even tho it is a proven design, need not be so stodgy...imports do seem to be more modern, but for now I am sticking with American...when SUV time comes, I am considering redesigned 2006 Explorer, 4 Runner, Pathfinder, and, if it has been enlarged like we hear about, Hyundai Santa Fe...
#2608 of 3320 Parts sales - wear vs failure, 4Runner by fsmmcsi Jun 21, 2005 (5:42 pm)
Of course, I was speaking of failures, not normal wear. If you look at the industry data from parts rebuilder publications and so forth, or just check what parts are sold at dealers and parts stores, you will see plenty of items on Toyotas, Hondas, and so forth which are not replaced due to normal wear.   The reputation seems to be greater than the reality. That is why I think that Ford would really jolt Toyota and Honda by going to a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. That, combined with the new products, would be a powerful one-two punch. The 2006 Explorer & Mountaineer are excellent examples. They will be the second generation independent rear suspension designs, with many improvements, while vehicles such as the 4Runner still have a solid rear axle. Replies to this message: moeharri (Jun 21, 2005 5:50 pm)
#2609 of 3320 Re: Parts sales - wear vs failure, 4Runner [fsmmcsi] by moeharri Jun 21, 2005 (5:50 pm)
Replying to: fsmmcsi (Jun 21, 2005 5:42 pm) The thing is, Ford could offer me an unlimited miles/year warranty for free, and I wouldn't take them up on it. My time is much more important to me (which is the same for some people and not the same for others). With the frequent trips (every other week for months on end) to fix issue after issue, it's not worth it. At first people would be excited about a longer warranty until they realize that the fixes aren't "free" but rather are very time consuming and come with many hassles from Ford's Oasis (?) system. Not to mention Ford would go out of business even sooner with all the repairs they'd be performing...just me 2 cents.
#2610 of 3320 My Guess Is that a 10/100 Warranty by daryll44 Jun 21, 2005 (7:51 pm)
would be met by GM and DCX and that TOY/HON would have to respond as well. It would be interesting to see if the current price war turned into a warranty war.
#2611 of 3320 moeharri and repairs by fsmmcsi Jun 21, 2005 (9:37 pm)
I have never owned a car which fits what you describe (repairs every other week for months on end). My time goes for far more dollars than average, but I would not, and probably will not, hesitate to buy a 2006 Mountaineer now that my foray into Toyota land has been so miserable. I just can not imagine a vehicle as bad as what you describe in this day and age. Anyone with such a car needs to use the lemon law, sue the dealer or manufacturer, or more likely, find a better repair facility. I strongly suspect that such a situation would be the result of a lousy repair department. Even the cheapest cars today are much better than that.
#2612 of 3320 The best warranty.......... by chuck1 Jun 21, 2005 (10:02 pm)
IS THE ONE YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2613 of 3320 Engines, 4.0L V6 vs 4.6L V8 by protectsecon1 Jun 22, 2005 (7:15 am)
I am planning to purchase a 2005 Explorer Sport. Occasionaly will tow boat with GVW of 3500 lbs. Will the 4.0L V6 work ? Some hills, nothing steep. Any thoughts appreciated. There is more selection with the the 4.0 L Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jun 22, 2005 7:32 pm) electricdesign (Jun 23, 2005 3:30 am)
#2614 of 3320 4.0 on hills by fsmmcsi Jun 22, 2005 (4:07 pm)
Why bother with the little engine? I doubt the mileage will be any better than the V8 on those hills and with the trailer. The V8 only costs a little more than the 6.
#2615 of 3320 towing by explorerx4 Jun 22, 2005 (5:30 pm)
get the towing package too. gives you some load headroom.
#2616 of 3320 Re: Engines, 4.0L V6 vs 4.6L V8 [protectsecon1] by nvbanker Jun 22, 2005 (7:32 pm)
Replying to: protectsecon1 (Jun 22, 2005 7:15 am) The 4.6L V-8 is a better engine, will only cost you 1-2 mpg, and is a lot more fun, and will definitely tow better. I wouldn't even consider the 6 if I'm going to tow a boat. It'll do it, but the 8 will do it a lot better, and probably when towing, even save you gas...

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