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#2599 of 3320 C'mon. You know darn well that the trend by daryll44 by lateralg Jun 18, 2005 (5:37 pm)
Whatever....
#2600 of 3320 tidester by marsha7 Jun 18, 2005 (6:20 pm)
Could you please tell me what happened to the emoticons, or am I the only one who had them at the bottom of the post screen (this screen) and now they are MIA... Replies to this message: steve_ (Jun 18, 2005 6:27 pm)
#2601 of 3320 Re: tidester [marsha7] by steve_ HOST Jun 18, 2005 (6:27 pm)
Replying to: marsha7 (Jun 18, 2005 6:20 pm) They've been coming and going while a bug is being swatted. They'll be back for good soon.   Steve, Host
#2602 of 3320 Re: C'mon. You know darn well that the trend [chuck1] by nvbanker Jun 19, 2005 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: chuck1 (Jun 18, 2005 3:44 pm) Hate to actually dignify this lame argument with a comment, but being a fool, I will add my comment as I always do....   There's no question the Asians and Europeans are eating the Domestics market share away year after year, but it's not all about reliability folks. It's also about price (Hyundia, Kia), Warranty (Hyundai), and a general Generation Y hatred of all things American that roll. Until we figure out how to sell cars to them, or their kids, this isn't going to reverse much.
#2603 of 3320 Bullschteig! It IS about quality! by daryll44 Jun 20, 2005 (7:53 am)
I just don't buy what you are saying. In the end, it IS all about quality. Detroit has ALWAYS had cheap models available....but unlike the Honda, Toyota and now Hyundai, they all fell apart within a few years. And while quality HAS gotten BETTER, it didn't get "better enough". And, frankly, it might be too late. People get used to certain makes. Most of the Honda/Toyota crowd is NEVER coming back.   Now if GM/Ford went to a 10 year warranty.... Replies to this message: moeharri (Jun 20, 2005 3:59 pm)
#2604 of 3320 Bullschteig! It IS about quality! by daryll44 by lateralg Jun 20, 2005 (9:58 am)
Have you tried De-caf?
#2605 of 3320 Re: Bullschteig! It IS about quality! [daryll44] by moeharri Jun 20, 2005 (3:59 pm)
Replying to: daryll44 (Jun 20, 2005 7:53 am) I totally agree with you. I am fairly young (25), but have had the fortune to buy 3 brand new vehicles already. I started with a 2001 Grand Am. I babied the car like crazy, but it was still "junk". I then purchased a 2003 Explorer. It has been having more and more problems and only has about 19k miles (I have been into the dealer 8 times in the last 3 months with no end in sight). Lastly, I just purchased a 2005 Camry. The car (with about 8k miles) has been an absolute DREAM. There is almost nothing GM or Ford can do to ever get me back into their vehicles. If somehow Toyota disappoints me (which I doubt will happen), I'll go to Honda or maybe even Hyundai. Many other people I work with feel the same way--I always thought I'd buy only "American", but the Japanese just make too good of a vehicle to pass up at almost any price.
#2606 of 3320 2003 Mountaineer Brake pedal falling off by curious6 Jun 20, 2005 (4:37 pm)
I am brand new to this forum. Can anyone tell me if you have ever heard of the brake pedal falling off when attempting to step on the brakes? This happened to my sister this past weekend. Thankfully she was not going down a hill or was not in crowded traffic situation when this happened. She was able to get the vehicle to stop only because she was on a flat surface and not travelling very fast when the pedal broke away. She has the adjustable gas and brake pedal option on her vehicle. She has contacted the dealer and was told "this is the 1st time I have ever heard of this". I think this is the standard response from most every service manager. If anyone has heard of this please reply. I hate to think what could have happened in a different driving situation. This really seems like a very serious situation Ford/Mercury needs to look into. If anyone has any suggestions/ideas, please don't hesitate to respond.   thanks Curious6
#2607 of 3320 daryl44 by marsha7 Jun 20, 2005 (5:50 pm)
I have a tendency to agree...I was fed up with Detroit iron in the 1970s and 1980s, and I bought 4 Hondas in that time...my last two, in 1988, lasted until 1998 and 2001, 160K and 180K miles...I wanted to give Detroit another chance so in 2004 I bought a Dodge Truck and Crown Vic...very happy with Dodge, Crown Vic very nice but it could be a little more modernized, even tho it is a proven design, need not be so stodgy...imports do seem to be more modern, but for now I am sticking with American...when SUV time comes, I am considering redesigned 2006 Explorer, 4 Runner, Pathfinder, and, if it has been enlarged like we hear about, Hyundai Santa Fe...
#2608 of 3320 Parts sales - wear vs failure, 4Runner by fsmmcsi Jun 21, 2005 (5:42 pm)
Of course, I was speaking of failures, not normal wear. If you look at the industry data from parts rebuilder publications and so forth, or just check what parts are sold at dealers and parts stores, you will see plenty of items on Toyotas, Hondas, and so forth which are not replaced due to normal wear.   The reputation seems to be greater than the reality. That is why I think that Ford would really jolt Toyota and Honda by going to a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. That, combined with the new products, would be a powerful one-two punch. The 2006 Explorer & Mountaineer are excellent examples. They will be the second generation independent rear suspension designs, with many improvements, while vehicles such as the 4Runner still have a solid rear axle. Replies to this message: moeharri (Jun 21, 2005 5:50 pm)

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