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#2594 of 3320 Re: Release with bad rear end? Toyota reliability. [fsmmcsi] by tidester HOST Jun 17, 2005 (9:11 pm)
Replying to: fsmmcsi (Jun 17, 2005 7:59 pm) Why do they and others sell so many parts for Toyotas if they never fail?   Because they wear out? Was that a trick question?   tidester, host
#2595 of 3320 Re: Release with bad rear end? Toyota reliability. [fsmmcsi] by daryll44 Jun 18, 2005 (12:57 am)
Replying to: fsmmcsi (Jun 17, 2005 7:59 pm) Your story is unfortunately. But there are 10 times as many folks going in the OTHER direction as you...and I don't mean in reference to driving up the street.
#2596 of 3320 10 times as many folks... by daryll44 by lateralg Jun 18, 2005 (5:41 am)
If you expect to have any credibility here, try to be more factual.   10 times as many??   In God we trust; all others bring data.
#2597 of 3320 C'mon. You know darn well that the trend by daryll44 Jun 18, 2005 (3:38 pm)
is OVERWHELMING going AWAY from Ford and GM and toward Toyota, Honda and now Hyundai. OK, so maybe it's not 10 to 1 (although it's possible that the bleeding IS that bad), you get my point but are nitpicking because you don't like it. In the end, the marketplace has clearly recognized that those imports are doing a much better job delivering quality, durability, design and economy. Replies to this message: chuck1 (Jun 18, 2005 3:44 pm) nvbanker (Jun 19, 2005 8:22 pm)
#2598 of 3320 Re: C'mon. You know darn well that the trend [daryll44] by chuck1 Jun 18, 2005 (3:44 pm)
Replying to: daryll44 (Jun 18, 2005 3:38 pm) I have to agree, look GM's market share trend over the past 10 to 20 years. It's anything but a pretty picture! Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jun 19, 2005 8:22 pm)
#2599 of 3320 C'mon. You know darn well that the trend by daryll44 by lateralg Jun 18, 2005 (5:37 pm)
Whatever....
#2600 of 3320 tidester by marsha7 Jun 18, 2005 (6:20 pm)
Could you please tell me what happened to the emoticons, or am I the only one who had them at the bottom of the post screen (this screen) and now they are MIA... Replies to this message: steve_ (Jun 18, 2005 6:27 pm)
#2601 of 3320 Re: tidester [marsha7] by steve_ HOST Jun 18, 2005 (6:27 pm)
Replying to: marsha7 (Jun 18, 2005 6:20 pm) They've been coming and going while a bug is being swatted. They'll be back for good soon.   Steve, Host
#2602 of 3320 Re: C'mon. You know darn well that the trend [chuck1] by nvbanker Jun 19, 2005 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: chuck1 (Jun 18, 2005 3:44 pm) Hate to actually dignify this lame argument with a comment, but being a fool, I will add my comment as I always do....   There's no question the Asians and Europeans are eating the Domestics market share away year after year, but it's not all about reliability folks. It's also about price (Hyundia, Kia), Warranty (Hyundai), and a general Generation Y hatred of all things American that roll. Until we figure out how to sell cars to them, or their kids, this isn't going to reverse much.
#2603 of 3320 Bullschteig! It IS about quality! by daryll44 Jun 20, 2005 (7:53 am)
I just don't buy what you are saying. In the end, it IS all about quality. Detroit has ALWAYS had cheap models available....but unlike the Honda, Toyota and now Hyundai, they all fell apart within a few years. And while quality HAS gotten BETTER, it didn't get "better enough". And, frankly, it might be too late. People get used to certain makes. Most of the Honda/Toyota crowd is NEVER coming back.   Now if GM/Ford went to a 10 year warranty.... Replies to this message: moeharri (Jun 20, 2005 3:59 pm)

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