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#2571 of 3320 Rough Road Tripping by nvbanker Jun 05, 2005 (8:26 pm)
Theoretically, I have heard of it, but I've never heard of it actually happening to anybody. I've only seen one trip after a collision or rollover Replies to this message: electricdesign (Jun 06, 2005 3:17 am)
#2572 of 3320 Re: Rough Road Tripping [nvbanker] by electricdesign Jun 06, 2005 (3:17 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Jun 05, 2005 8:26 pm) The fuel reset is on the fuel shut off switch, it is an interia switch that activates on impact or roll over, very much like an airbag sensor. Vibration should never set it off.
#2573 of 3320 Love our Explorer by kc_flynn Jun 07, 2005 (10:12 am)
We just cracked the 10,000 mile mark on our 2004 Explorer XLS Sport 4x4. We've had it since September. Both my wife and I are HUGE fans of the Explorer. Roomy, nice ride, good power, easy to access dashboard buttons and controls.   After driving Hondas and Toyotas, this was our first Ford, and we have been very impressed. Replies to this message: electricdesign (Jun 08, 2005 3:34 am) nvbanker (Jun 12, 2005 6:58 pm)
#2574 of 3320 Re: Love our Explorer [kc_flynn] by electricdesign Jun 08, 2005 (3:34 am)
Replying to: kc_flynn (Jun 07, 2005 10:12 am) KC, LOVE your post! My wife and I feel the same way, we LOVE our Explorers! 1997 Ford Explorer XLT 137,000 miles 2000 Ford Explorer XLT 101,000 miles   Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jun 12, 2005 6:58 pm)
#2575 of 3320 Re: Love our Explorer [electricdesign] by nvbanker Jun 12, 2005 (6:58 pm)
Replying to: electricdesign (Jun 08, 2005 3:34 am) Said it before, will repeat it again - IMO, the Explorer has been, and continues to be the best SUV in its class all around. Others may specialize and excel in those specialties, but Explorer does everything quite well for a good value. And I've had great performance from all of mine. A 94, 97, 98, 02, & 04. I recently helped my neighbor buy a 4Runner. I test drove it. Sadly, I wouldn't trade it for my Mountaineer. It's way too trucky, too hard to steer, the floor is too high, you can't see over the hood, the controls are very hard to understand, and it's expensive.
#2576 of 3320 4Runner - lights, vs 2006 Explorer, sale status by fsmmcsi Jun 14, 2005 (7:32 pm)
Nvbanker - the 4Runner also lacks many of the interior lights on switches and so forth which the Explorer and other Ford vehicles have. The 4Runner is quiet, but expensive, and the solid rear axle is primitive and rough-riding. The 2006 Explorer will be even further ahead of the Toyota / Lexus products.   Toyota is vulnerable due to their cheapness - the solid axle is cheaper than an independent rear suspension. If Ford would step up and use the same tool which has helped Hyundai - a 10 year / 100,000 mile warranty, I think they could easily take customers away from Toyota and Honda in segments such as SUVs where they have good products.   For those who are interested in my attempt to sell my '02 Mountaineer, an update: I have had one low baller who thought my '02 Mountaineer would only be worth $8,000 to $9,000, and one caller who offered $10,000 sight unseen, but wanted to pay with a check. Other than that, just three or four callers who saw the signs on it when we were driving and who were disinterested after finding out it has 93,000 one-owner high way miles. I will give it time, but if it does not sell, try to go to a swap meet, or just keep it several more years and use it to drive to demolition sites and other places where the minivan might be too low.
#2577 of 3320 Ford, Offer a 100K Warranty? It Will NEVER Happen by daryll44 Jun 15, 2005 (1:23 pm)
That will never happen. Can you imagine Ford having to repair for free all the stuff that happens to their vehicles after 36,000 miles. They'd be broke in a year (or at least a year sooner than they are already going broke). I own a 2003 Mountaineer and LOVE the vehicle. So I am not a Ford basher per se. But let's be real folks, the initial quality may have improved slightly, but Fords are no competition for Toyota and Honda, who are eating it's lunch. And as for long term durability, most Fords disintegrate between 75,000 miles and 100,000 miles...or will cost the owner two arms and two legs to keep going beyond that. Sure, you'll post exceptions but in the real world most Hondas and Toyotas go 150,000 to 200,000 miles without too much hassle while Fords, in general, only go half as far with no hassle. Replies to this message: chuck1 (Jun 15, 2005 3:13 pm) electricdesign (Jun 15, 2005 8:23 pm) chuck1 (Jun 16, 2005 8:07 am)
#2578 of 3320 Re: Ford, Offer a 100K Warranty? It Will NEVER Happen [daryll44] by chuck1 Jun 15, 2005 (3:13 pm)
Replying to: daryll44 (Jun 15, 2005 1:23 pm) As an owner of a '02 Explorer--As much as I hate to, I have to agree with you. My '02 has been a pretty good vehicle. But the transmission solenoid has been replaced, the power window motor replaced, various squeaks and rattles, (some fixed-some not "found") the leather is terrible. And I have a axle whine that the dealer says "he has heard much worse" between 55mph and 65mph. This made it necessary for me to purchase the 75,000 miles "Basic Care Ford Warranty". I have told all who are considering a purchase of one of these vehicles to at least get the "extended power train warranty" that will cover the rear end. Of course, there is no-way I am going to keep this car past the 75,000 mile warranty. You would have to be crazy to! Why do American car makers settle for mediocrity?
#2579 of 3320 You are asking the wrong question! by daryll44 Jun 15, 2005 (5:19 pm)
The question is why do WE CONSUMERS settle? And the answer is that more and more we are not. Why do you think GM and FORD are teetering on the edge while Toyota and Honda have record profits? Again, I own a Ford and felt that the DESIGN of the current bodystyle Explorer/Mountaineer was superior than anything around. And at 36000 miles I have to admit that this Mountaineer has not had the defects that we saw in our old 1999 Explorer. But if it does fall apart after the warranty (just went over 36K), I'll buy a Honda Pilot next time as the design is very close. GM and FORD (and DCX although diluted since Daimler bot it) don't have the corporate culture to fix the problems it seems. And it's a downward spiral as losses mount, there is less and less money for development and quality improvement, thus leading to yet more sales losses. I hope for the sake of the American economy that things turn around, but it looks grim for both Ford and GM. Meantime, keep on truckin! Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jun 15, 2005 5:54 pm)
#2580 of 3320 Re: You are asking the wrong question! [daryll44] by explorerx4 Jun 15, 2005 (5:54 pm)
Replying to: daryll44 (Jun 15, 2005 5:19 pm) what kind of maintenance schedule do you use? my fords are pretty good if you keep up with it.i have to agree with you that the explorer/mounty is just a terrific design. i have an '02 explorer with 44k on it. still original tires and brakes, axle hum at 50-52 mph. if you have a good vehicle, quit hoping it's going to fail!

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