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3320 messages, Last post on Oct 26, 2009 at 5:13 PM
You are in the Ford Explorer Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & tidester
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The link is there and it explains it in better detail how it works, so I'm not sure what more your looking for. As for the Explorer not having it, open the Owner's Manual, and pg.176, (if it's a 2005 manual, might differ a page or 2 on other years)... titled "Driving", first paragraph reads.... "This vehicle is equipped with adaptive Transmission Shift Strategy. Adaptive Transmission Shift Strategy offers the optimal transmission operation and shift quality...." etc.etc. |
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What's even more interesting is that the engineers who designed and calibrated the transmission are the source of my information. Now who should we believe, the engineers who design & build the transmission, or the PR folks? Who would you bet on? How about a survey among our readers? A) PR folks B) Engineers |
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"I'm not sure what more your looking for." Just the facts from those who really know. |
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Well considering it's listed on the manual, if the vehicle isn't equipped with it, wouldn't that be false advertising ? I think if that would be the case, then a massive class action suit could stem from that. I can read the headlines now.... "Edmunds forum members discussing the Explorer transmission prompted an investigation into false claims from the manufacturer that the vehicle was equipped with technology, that wasn't really present"... That and have a massive hysteria of forum members on here, emailing Ford over that concern. So in essense your saying Ford purposely printed information about the vehicle (and on the owner's manual, which is taken even more seriously) that includes technology that really isn't present ? And that the PR folks just through that tidbit into the manual for decoration ? I mean, those are some pretty serious accusations.
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Replying to: ANT14 (May 28, 2005 6:01 pm) But there are those over-reported horsepower cases where the automakers offer to buy back cars and sometimes get sued. (USA Today) I don't know if Siemens supplies Ford, but their press site is similar to Fords: "Siemens VDO is now able to apply flexible fuzzy logic algorithms for adapting the driving and shifting strategy of a vehicle's powertrain to the driver's style." Siemens VDO Automotive Bosch is somewhat similar. (pdf file). Subaru talks about changing the shift logic to "correspond with the driver’s intention." ANT's got links to back his comments up fwiw; I guess I want to talk to the software engineer.  Steve, Host |
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Those of us in the US are remembering Memorial Day with our long weekend and the usual weekday commentary is getting sidetracked a bit (I guess we missed Victoria Day). Anyone who wants to talk about the Explorer or Mountaineer and not just transmission nuances, feel free to hop in with a new thread. Steve, Host |
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Please don't twist my words. Here's what I said: "The above quote is believed by many, but is simply not true. The Explorer 5-speed auto transmission has no feature that recognizes or adapts to a person's driving behavior. After a few thousand miles, it will execute a given shift the same for Granny as it will for anyone else." This is based on input from the engineers who designed and calibrated the transmission. I understand how many have been mis-led by misinformation. It's fine with me if they want to continue to believe it. If anyone cares to understand the reality of how the transmission adapts, I'll be glad to offer it up. I respect your position Steve. I don't think this transmission discussion has provented anyone from posting on another subject. I hope you respect mine as well. I'm loyal to Ford, and get a bit riled when I read statements that I know to be incorrect. I would think that Edmunds would also be interested in the integrity of the posts on their forum. Peace?
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Replying to: lateralg (May 28, 2005 9:02 pm) Personally, I just like to see more in the way of back up than "based on input from engineers." Not that I don't believe you, and just because it's on the net doesn't mean it's true, but I'd like to see some more in the way of back-up documentation or explanation. So feel free to offer it up, and we'll wrap it up in time to return to the usual commentary in here when the regulars and would be owners get back from holiday. And I am a bit confused - are you ok that some transmissions do adapt for different drivers, just not the ones in the Explorer? Steve, Host |
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Replying to: lateralg (May 27, 2005 3:03 pm) |
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It's very easy to obtain back up. ANT, with his insider knowledge of FOMOCO, only has to pick up the phone & call Transmission Engineering in Livonia. I look forward to his report on the call. It does appear that some transmissions adapt for different drivers. I've been addressing the false claim that Explorer transmissions do. Unless more misinformation appears, I'm done with this topic.
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