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#2521 of 3320 Re: tidester [marsha7] by tidester HOST May 26, 2005 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: marsha7 (May 26, 2005 6:02 pm) ... but there is still a psychological barrier ...   I can't argue with that!   tidester, host
#2522 of 3320 Re: just rented an 05 Navigator [lateralg] by nvbanker May 26, 2005 (7:29 pm)
Replying to: lateralg (May 26, 2005 5:37 pm) It appears the transmission is a shift by wire setup - there is no linkage feel at all like there is traditionally - it feels like a Mattel joystick - a little less satisfying than I would like personally, but that's beside the point. If you want to go to manumatic mode you take it out of Overdrive by moving the selector over to the right, you get the Overdrive Off warning in the message center, and you're in manual select, and in 4th gear. From there you can go all the way back to 1st if you want to. Kickdowns are easy and prompt, and in automatic, you can do a kickdown from 6th to 1st in one shift if you want to, pretty darn fast. The shifts are like butter, by the way. You don't even feel them, unless you're under hard acceleration.   I think it's the finest transmission I've ever seen. If it holds up, it's perfect.
#2523 of 3320 ZF by ANT14 May 26, 2005 (8:07 pm)
And the abuse that monster can take. This is one of those "overly engineered" items Ford has recently done.
#2524 of 3320 ZF by ANT14 by lateralg May 26, 2005 (8:18 pm)
ANT:   Why do you say "ZF"?
#2525 of 3320 ZF Friedrichshafen AG by ANT14 May 26, 2005 (8:39 pm)
That is who builds the transmissions. Same transmission being used in some LandRover's and Jaguars. ZF Friedrichshafen AG and Ford Motor Company formed a joint venture - ZF Transmission Tech. Not only do they contribute to CVT transmission in Batavia, but are involved in the next generation of 6 speed automatic transmission to be used in RWD vehicles (high capacity that is).
#2526 of 3320 ZF by ANT14 by lateralg May 26, 2005 (8:45 pm)
"That is who builds the transmissions."   That's not what I heard ... are you sure? I need to know in order to settle a bet.
#2527 of 3320 $$$ by ANT14 May 26, 2005 (8:51 pm)
Heh, where did they say the transmission came from ?   Here's a link that will help you win your bet.   http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=17407   And if you need a link that marries ZF into the new Navigator then   http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_display.cfm?release=18480&CFID=392414&CFTOKEN=27643296&jsessionid=b4302620fc0a$D7$A2$3
#2528 of 3320 $$$ by ANT14 by lateralg May 26, 2005 (9:20 pm)
The first link is to the CVT transmission that's not used in the Navigator, Explorer, or Mountaineer.   The second link doesn't say who BUILDS the transmission, which is my question, and my bet.
#2529 of 3320 ZF by ANT14 May 26, 2005 (9:26 pm)
First link, read the whole article. The title says Batavia, but it's ALL in there. There's a relationship between ZF, Batavia and Ford, and the article details it.   Second link, 2nd paragraph. Just hold down CNTRL and F, you get the FIND box, type on ZF in the search, and ALL the ZF's on the pages will pop up. Just read it.
#2530 of 3320 ZF by ANT14 by lateralg May 26, 2005 (9:38 pm)
I must be dense. I still don't see where the transmission is actually manufactured. Is it built at a ZF plant, or a Ford plant?

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