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#226 of 3348 2002 Mountaineer Ordered in Southern CA at 3 percent over invoice
Jun 20, 2001 (3:09 pm)
I thank this discussion group for allerting me to the $1,200 price advantage of the 2002 Mercury Mountaineer over a 2002 Ford Explorer. We had rented an Explorer while on a trip and liked it, although the V6 is slow after 30MPH. The new GM Bravada, Envoy, and Trailblazer have an excellent engine, but lack the independent rear suspension, 3rd row seat, and side curtain air bags. I was offered 3% over invoice by two dealers - Tustin Lincoln Mercury and Galpin Lincoln Mercury. I ordered a Mountaineer equipped with 2 wheel drive, V8, Convenience Group, Luxury Group, Trailer Towing Prep. Package (to get the 3.73 rear axle ratio for better acceleration), Air Conditioning, Automatic Rear, Radio System, audiophile, Restraint system, front & 2nd row side impact air bags, Reverse sensing system, Seats, Leather Surfaced Sport Bucket, (5) P245/70R16 Goodyear BSW tires, Exterior Color Mineral Grey Metallic, and Interior color Parchment, Medium. I will pay cash, and the total with tax and license will be about $35,500. Santa Margarita Ford offered me $1,000 over invoice, which is also about 3% over invoice.
#227 of 3348 /direct/view/.eea73f3/206
Jun 20, 2001 (4:29 pm)
The harsh shift problem was fixed by dealer. there is a TSB out on this issue. Explorere built before 5/21 may have this problem and can be fixed via a transmission programming change. Works fine after the update.
Jun 21, 2001 (3:22 am)
You can search for incentives either on the Ford website (www.fordvehicles.com) or through edmund's. The incentive programs vary by region, so you'll have to check for your area. In my region, they are offering 3.9/4.9/5.9 3,4,or 5 yr financing. The $750 owner loyalty rebate, I believe, applies nationwide. It expires on 7/2/01, so you'll have to act quickly. It applies to vehicles delivered by that date, not on factory orders delivered later.
#229 of 3348 Far less sorta east of OC....
Jun 21, 2001 (8:12 am)
Mountaineer deals are far better than that in Southern CA. If you need info on how to be treated right and get a more than awesome deal + excellent trade values, I will be pleased to tell you where I bought ours. It was for $300 over invoice. We got the two-tone blue luxury colors, and it's very well equipped, with dual air, 3rd rear seat that the kids LOVE, running boards, roof rack, memory seats and keyless remotes, alloys, geez, I could go on! Leather, heated seats, the works. Best thing was the red-carpet lease at awesome lease rates. Due to my experience with my last Ford (Explorer) it was great to be able to get out of the Explorer at a VERY good trade value without the new car being marked up to accomodate my trade value wishes. I really did pay $300 over cost and got the nicest car! Honestly, I got $2,000 more trade value than Rancho Santa Margarita Ford or the San Juan Capistrano dealers appraised it for, and heck with the idiots at Tuttle Click, they were nuts!! I did sign for a short term lease to be able to hand the keys back at 36 months when the warranty is up. Even better was the fact that this dealership delivered the car right to my doorstep with no hassle, full of fuel. And, the "Wear and Care warranty" for $500 to cover me up to $2500 for overmiles was a godsend, as I will not be able to keep this comfortable, great car at 12k a year. It's too nice to NOT drive!
Loving the 2002 a LOT EVERY DAY, MORE AND MORE! No rattles. No squeaks. Not a bit of comparison with the late model Explorer I was in.
#230 of 3348 Deals in Southern CA
Jun 21, 2001 (4:26 pm)
Comedydrama - why didn't you write the name of the dealer offering $300 over invoice? Also, dealers are more willing to sell what is on their lot at a lower cost, as no vehicles are selling well now. McPherson Ford in Tustin offered an Explorer EB at invoice if I would drive the V6 and compare it to the old V8. I have seen large inventories at all of the dealers, although most are V6 models.
#232 of 3348 STORMING THE DEALER
Jun 21, 2001 (7:30 pm)
that's funny... I think that the only part of the dealership that is being "stormed" now is the service dept by people looking to unload their Firestone tires.. not buy a new Explorer. At my uncle's dealership, sales on almost everything is down... partly I guess because of the economy and the layoffs, and maybe in part because people have taken pause about Ford and its integrity.
#233 of 3348 2002 Explorer/Mountaineer
Jun 21, 2001 (11:25 pm)
I'm sick of logging onto this site and seeing the Trailblazer/Envoy/Bravada getting more "hits". We all bought these vehicles because we felt they were better than the GM version, at least I did. I'm extremely happy with my purchase thus far...what say we voice our confidence toward our recent purchases, and blow these GM dudes out'a the water?
#234 of 3348 Not this again, please!
Jun 22, 2001 (1:59 am)
I'd say we stick to the topic of Ford before a tangent starts about GM products, we surely do not want a repeat of ML talk like we had a while back.
Jun 22, 2001 (7:01 am)
Actually, I'm kind of glad that there aren't a multitude of posts here. It appears that the reason that there are so many posts on the GM board is because everyone is venting about all of the problems that they are having. If fewer posts means fewer problems, I'm happy. The wife and I are in the market for a new vehicle. I want a car, but the wife wants an '02 Mountaineer. We all know who will most likely win that argument. We rented an '02 XLT for the weekend and loved it. At any rate, I too would be happy to read more posts about experiences with the '02s.