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Ford Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2005 and earlier

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Re: My Thoughts/Mountaineer AWD V6 [troyben] by cubes
Oct 15, 2004 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: troyben (Oct 15, 2004 8:14 am)

Funny you mention the MDX. We need seven seats and at the time the choices were few in this size vehicle. I remember getting an email flyer from our local Acura dealer saying they were having a sale. Turns out their idea of a sale was MSRP and at the time the dealer installed add-ons were very pricey as well. Probably a very good vehicle in general, on Odessy on steriods. I think the 3rd seat, although wider, was short on leg room. If I remember correctly, even with the much better residual on the MDX, the payment would have been $80-$100 more per month. I couldn't do it and I don't regret it and am happy where I am.
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Re: My Thoughts/Mountaineer AWD V6 [cubes] by troyben
Oct 15, 2004 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: cubes (Oct 15, 2004 8:45 am)

Yeah, that year before we made our purchase, I was pleasantly surprised when I tried the 3rd row seat of the Mountaineer at the Chicago Auto Show. I thought it was extremely roomy compared to the MDX. My only complaint with the 3rd row on the Mountaineer is that it doesn't have a split fold like the MDX.
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Honda Pilot by dan1
Oct 15, 2004 (11:58 am)
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We test drove a Pilot before we bought our 03 Explorer and it did not impress me that much. Weak motor and bland styling. I am sure it is a great vehicle just not for us. I think the biggest turn off was the saleswoman. Talk about arrogant. She actually told us without laughing that if they did happen to get a used 03 in they would only be about $700.00 less than a new 04!
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Re: My Thoughts/Mountaineer AWD V6 [troyben] by cubes
Oct 15, 2004 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: troyben (Oct 15, 2004 9:44 am)

You hit it right on the head about the 3rd seat. It would be so nice if it was split. Well, I'm sure it will be when they do the re-design in a couple of years. I would also have liked memory on the mirrors.
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by ANT14
Oct 15, 2004 (9:23 pm)
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Next refreshening is next year actually...
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Wish list... by nvbanker
Oct 16, 2004 (10:37 am)
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Ok, as big a fan as I am of the Mountaineer & Explorer, believing them to be about the perfect SUV, and being on our 5th one, I would add that memory on the mirrors would be nice too, Cooled seats as well as heated seats would be a nice option to have, and the reverse mirrors need to come back to all Lincolns, and Mercurys...please! Once you have them....very hard to do without! These are the little things that make you loyal to a brand you know. Like the keypad on a door.
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by ANT14
Oct 16, 2004 (10:44 pm)
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I love that keypad entry system. Helps when I go to the beach, gym, karate class, yoga, and don't wish to carry wallet, or keys with me. Just dial the digits, and pop it open.
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by nvbanker
Oct 17, 2004 (3:44 pm)
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Exactly! I was on the 24 month lease plan for my wife in the 90's, and her 94 Cougar was up. The 96 Cougar no longer had the keypad available - so she made me buy her 94 out of the lease for her. No way she would do without that keypad, even for a new car! Even brought her a new Cadillac home to try out. No sale. Wanted her keypad. Don't let them thrift that off the cars, ANT. Would be a mistake.
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Like the keypad on a door..................... by chuck1
Oct 17, 2004 (4:03 pm)
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Every year it seems to be a behavior with Ford to see what they can "delete from being standard" to what the car buying public will accept. They delete things then make you buy them in some sort of- the following: Convenience package, appearance package, etc. The we we look at the sticker, we wonder why the price goes up each year. Car makers will say-Yes, the base price stayed the same or only went up $200.00. But it seems to be the case that each year you have to pay more (even taking in to consideration inflation)to get the EXACT SAME VEHICLE. This years Explorer is a prime example. They did away with "color coordinated door handles on the XLT-now they are part of an "appearance package". I guess they think people won't notice or will pay for it. On the Focus SE sedan, you used to get 5 "spoke wheels," now they are plastic wheel covers. If you look at Ford's sales it appears to be a false assumption that people are willing to pay more for less. Even the bottom tier Hyundai (ACCENT) gets color coded mirrors. Just try to Find this on an Explorer or Focus.....

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