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Re: [chuck1] Perhaps you should check..... [nvbanker] by chuck1
Oct 12, 2004 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 12, 2004 2:58 pm)

No, I didn't check your profile. It just seems to me that the quality control is very poor on the new Explorers. Here are KNOWN issues-Transmission soldnoid, rear end, rear power door motors, poor idling,(no fix for this like the rear end). All of the above problems are things that are KNOWN and I didn't make them up. If you have been lucky enough not to experience them, that's great, consider yourself lucky. Are they the best bargain out there for a SUV? Probably with the initial cost. However, my guess is that the Honda Pilot has the lower cost of ownership. (My guess... haven't looked it up!). Here is another issue-What do they decontent that you don't see? Like I said-single light circuit now in the tailight of the Focus. Do alot of people notice this? Probably not! But putting a single circuit back there compromises saftey when the bulb goes.
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Well, hey! by nvbanker
Oct 13, 2004 (2:25 pm)
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Then go buy your Pilot, pal, and live happily ever after. This really isn't the bash & rant board. No question, the Pilot is a fine rig. I'm just saying, I've had a lot of Fords, and a lot of Explorers & Mountaineers, and have experienced none of the maladies you referenced whatsoever. I'm sure they put out a klinker once in a while, everybody does - they're machines. I've owned a Honda, and it was an awesome little car. I still own an Infiniti, also a marvelous machine, very expensive to repair when it does need to be fixed, but fortunately, that's not too often. I remain convinced though, and I have lots of experience to back up my claim. Everything Ford makes isn't perfect, the their trucks and SUVs though, are usually out there in front in design, and tops in performance and quality as well. YMMV.
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Re: [chuck1] Perhaps you should check..... [nvbanker] [chuck1] by explorerx4
Oct 13, 2004 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Oct 12, 2004 5:19 pm)

i don't recall seeing any other posts about unfixable poor idling, or rampant bad transmission solenoids. please correct me if i'm wrong. personally i think you have a less than forthright dealer. the shifting is better now, right?
like nv, i'm big explorer fan(big surprise). it's not perfect, but it's the best overall vehicle i've ever had, as far as overall satisfaction goes.
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Re: [chuck1] Perhaps you should check..... [nvbanker] [chuck1] [explorerx4] by chuck1
Oct 14, 2004 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 13, 2004 3:27 pm)

Yes, the transmission after the flush and fluid replacement with solenoid repair now has the transmission shifting like it's "new again" very smooth. The rough idling is a common occcurance with the 4.0 V6. It not a severe bad idle, maybe 50 to 100 rpm's as you sit at the light. It was explained to me that it's a design flaw in the motor, something to do with the oxygen sensors on each side of the motor. I have seen this mentioned on this board as well. Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing the Explorer, I am not evening saying mine is a bad vehicle. I am saying that these problems in the number they are appearing is unacceptable and a pain in the you know where to get corrected. If you dont believe about the rear-end whine, bad trans solenoid, etc. do a google search-you will find the problems. As a matter of fact, ALL of these problems have been brought up on this board if you search for them.
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by nvbanker
Oct 14, 2004 (7:27 pm)
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The uneven idle can be dirty injectors too, and any engine can suffer from that if not properly maintained.
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Re: [nvbanker] by chuck1
Oct 14, 2004 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 14, 2004 7:27 pm)

2002 Explorer by rb123 Sep 30, 2001 (6:04 pm)
I owned a 02 Explorer for about 5 months, I posted once before on here about it, I did have a few problems with it bad brake rotors, rough idle , and a body mount went bad on it. The reason I got rid of so soon was I just didn't like it. ...
 
HERES A POST JUST FROM A QUICK SERACH............
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My Thoughts/Mountaineer AWD V6 by cubes
Oct 15, 2004 (7:14 am)
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I'd like to chime in here regarding the 02 model year Explorer/Mountaineer. We just turned in our leased V6 AWD Mountaineer after 35 months/38000 miles and besides the seat track that needed to be replaced, the thing was solid as a rock.
 
Could the 4.0 be a little smoother, I think it should be. It's not horrible by any means, but when you start comparing it to other V6's I guess it could use another level of refinement. Matter of fact if ours had the V8, we probably would have bought it. It was loaded, mint condition and we never got tired of the 2-tone blue which is not offered anymore.
 
That said, we bought an 04 Premier in Ceramic White, with the V8 AuxAir and DVD. It wasn't easy to find and we actually stumbled across four units at the last minute that were turn ins from the US Open Tennis Tourney. It had 1800 miles on it, but nice as new and 29,300.00 plus tax/tags. We are happy as pigs in you know what! The V8 has a nice rumble to it and I like the new single round exhaust tip over the oval one. Hopefully the mileage will improve with age like the V6 did.
 
When you sell 400,000 +/- units per year on a particular platform, you're bound to have a few problems, but they are a good bang for the buck and I would have to say from reading other forums, much less troublesome than some of the other offerings in this class.
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Re: My Thoughts/Mountaineer AWD V6 [cubes] by troyben
Oct 15, 2004 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: cubes (Oct 15, 2004 7:14 am)

I'd also like to chime in. Our 02 V6 AWD Mountaineer has been rock solid. We originally intended on getting an 02 Acura MDX. When we realized we couldn't touch it for less than MSRP & when we test drove it, the ride & interior felt like the minivan it's based on. We liked the interior & functionality of the Mountaineer better (plus the fact we could get it for $6K less). Now the MDX & Pilots are having all kinds of transmission issues; we have never regretted our decision.

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