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Re: Why is HL invoice in So. Calif. higher than online invoice? [gilk3914] by catdaddylong
Feb 13, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: gilk3914 (Feb 13, 2008 5:24 pm)

I ran into the same situation here in Little Rock, Ar at Landers Toyota. I had the salesman run a special order printout for a Highlander Sport AWD and the invoice he printed out was $930 more than Edmunds and Kelly Blue Book. I did not have my Edmunds data with me so I did not question him at the time. The question he hit me with was" Here is the invoice price and the MSRP. You will buy this Highlander somewhere in between. What do you think would be a fair price." I was caught a little off guard because I was not ready to make a firm commitment but I said to save a lot of arguing $800 over invoice. He wanted a deposit to further negotiations and I said I could not do anything without my wife seeing the Highlanders and left. Only when I got home did I see what the Edmunds invoice was and they were going to make $1700 sell over invoice! What a rip. It is my understanding that advertisement fees, oil and gas are on the invoice that you do not see listed by Edmunds or KBB. No way should that be $700- $900. I think so many buyers are getting educated to check websites that list invoice prices that the dealers are using some kind of bogus fee to jack it up $700-900 to make more profit. :
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Is this a good price?? by sunnyrock
Feb 13, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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I got this offer from a southwest ohio dealer for a build request on a 08 Highlander Sport 4WD w/ cypress pearl and sand beige interior with option package E (EH, EJ, SR, FE, QR, CT, TO) as listed on Toyota's website.
 
MSRP: 34,495
 
Offer: 30,500
 
OTD: 32,696 (includes 250 doc fee, 6.25% tax, 25 for temporary tags)
 
I also plan to use the 400 college graduate rebate, which will take the final price to 32,296 (OTD).
 
Is this a good deal?
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Re: Why is HL invoice in So. Calif. higher than online invoice? [catdaddylong] by brianm4
Feb 13, 2008 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: catdaddylong (Feb 13, 2008 6:07 pm)

I just had the same thing happen to me. Here are the additional fees that I was told are included on the invoice. I asked him to give me a detail of what each fee was and why...
 
TDA (Toyota Dealer Advertising) $587
Gasoline $10
Dealer Holdback (Reward for franchise dealer if they make plan) $654
Wholesale financial reserve (helps dealer to afford to put this many cars on lot) $327
 
MSRP was 35,559 on a 2WD Limited.
 
I told the dealer I was insulted that he wanted to charge me for gas and for him to have "so many cars on his lot". Since I was negotiating via e-mail I could not walk out, but I did push the mouse button pretty hard.
 
His response was, come in and we can beat any other deal.
Sorry, he had his chance...
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FYI... by ocautoseeker
Feb 14, 2008 (12:33 am)
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Since advertising fees (TDA) vary by region, some will be higher and some will be lower, but it is a legit fee as it's itemized on the "FACTORY" invoice. Edmund's and Kbb even admit that their invoices typically won't match the dealer's (read the fine print). I don't like the ad fee anymore than you do, but it's on the invoice from the factory and not some extraneous fee the dealer wrote in. You can always try to negotiate it if you don't think it's fair, but you probably won't get vary far.
 
Toyota does charge for fuel on certain models. If that $10 fee really bothers you, I guarantee a dealer will not lose your business over it, but what you see on the invoice is what the dealer was billed.
 
The holdback and wfr are already figured into Edmund's and Kbb, so the only thing you need to be aware of is the ad fee. Manufacturers have differnet ways of figuring the fee, but typically 1-3% of the base msrp is not uncommon.
 
If you want to be ultra aggressive, that's fine... take the holdback, wfr, ad fee, and fuel, and subtract that from the base invoice and use that as your starting point. One could surmise that would be the dealer's dead cost, but truth of the matter, the manufacturer and the owner of the dealership are probably the only ones who know the exact cost.You'll need to be in the right place at the right time if a dealer wants to take that deal, but if not, know that $250 -$500 over FACTORY INVOICE is still a great deal on one of these vehicles, especially the hard-to-find hybrids and limiteds.
 
Good Luck.
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Re: Higlander Base [wkcr] by cherishzm
Feb 14, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: wkcr (Feb 12, 2008 4:34 pm)

Hello! Could you post which dealership you purchased the HL from? I'm in NC and am interested in getting HL Sport or Limited 2WD.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Why is HL invoice in So. Calif. higher than online invoice? [brianm4] by catdaddylong
Feb 14, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: brianm4 (Feb 13, 2008 8:16 pm)

The TDA and Gasoline are legit but still can be negotiated if that is what is keeping one from walking or buying. The Dealer holdback Reward and the Wholesale financial reserve is bogus. There is such a thing as "Dealer Holdback" but that will not be on the invoice. That is a non negotiable sum between the manufacturer and the dealer. It can be taken into account on how much profit a dealer is going to make on the sale how ever. I think Consumer Reports will provide that information on their printout when you buy their car service.
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Re: Why is HL invoice in So. Calif. higher than online invoice? [catdaddylong] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 14, 2008 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: catdaddylong (Feb 14, 2008 3:31 pm)

Holdback and Wholesale Financial Reserve .. actually, they are on the Toyota invoice..
 
But, the base invoice price is reduced to reflect those added charges.. The invoice that you see on Edmunds and other on-line sources already has those items figured in... Toyota breaks them out separately, but they don't add to the invoice price you find here.
 
Toyota invoices are confusing, to say the least.. That's why the dealers like to show them to you.. (you'll notice that you don't get a copy to take home).
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Why is HL invoice in So. Calif. higher than online invoice? [kyfdx] by lucky_777
Feb 15, 2008 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 14, 2008 8:39 pm)

Edmunds invoice has factory invoice with dealers holdback. Expect to pay Edmunds invoice + delivery + TDA, that's normal. Whistler Financial reserve is a dealer carrying cost of the car, I never paid it and IMHO no car buyer should pay it.
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2008 Highlander Hybrid - Base Model Purchase Price by neilheeney
Feb 15, 2008 (11:58 pm)
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I've made the decision to buy a Highlander Hybrid and I'm starting to get quotes on a 2008 base model (black with grey cloth interior, popular package plus and the extra mile option package C) from several dealers in Oklahoma. So far the prices I've received are $37,196, $37,500 and $37,800. I also received a quote for a black/tan one minus the extra mile option package C that was $36,100. Unfortunately, I really don't want the tan interior. I would appreciate some feedback on these offers. Thanks in advance for your help.
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No Dealer fees on 2008 HL Hybrid by wtfjr
Feb 16, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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We shopped all around Daytona, with in 300 miles & we found only one dealer that discounted the HL Hybrid & added ne dealer fee or dealer sticker.
This is Earl Stewart in North Palm Beach FL & we delt with Peter Rosenblum in their internet sales dept who is a real gentleman.
We were offered $3,200 off of the factory MSRP on a Limited with Nav & sun roof along with no dealer fee !
We figure that we saved over $4,000 including trade & pricing, from the dealer here in Daytona.
Do a Google search to locate the web site & tell Peter that Bill French sent you.
Good luck !!
Bill in FL

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