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Toyota Highlander, SUV
#2868 of 5207 Re: good deal? [pushingtin]
Nov 21, 2007 (6:17 pm)
I am so happy for you that you are so proud of Toyota products.
Even my family owned more Toyota's than any other brands of
vehicles during last 25 years. But as far as claming "we offer a far
superior vehicle from top to bottom" is bit of a stretch.
Every vehicle manufactures have weaknesses and strengths in their
product line up. My current Toyota is 2002 Highlander. It has about
65000 miles on it. So far it's been ok, but had one major issue at
60000 miles. It was fuel injection related and cost me several hundred
to repair. I've never had major issues like that at 60k miles on any other vehicles before including Toyota or other brands.
I think at one time MB built great vehicles and reliability was better
than average, but not anymore. One reason might be, they are producing too many different models in their lineup? I hope Toyota
is not repeating same mistake as MB. So far I've had great reliability
and cost of ownership with Nissan/Infiniti products.
As far as people shopping for better deals: Why Not?
In U.S. at a dealership, two people buy same exact vehicle and one
can pay $3000 more than the other one. As long as that exists, people
will shop for better deals. I've worked in Auto business in the past, so
I know all about it! Some will get great deals and some will pay extra
to support the dealership...
#2869 of 5207 Let me know what you think
Nov 22, 2007 (10:21 am)
Just got a 2008 Highlander in Ohio
4WD 5Spd Auto Trans.
Hill-Start Assist & Downhill Assist Ctrl. 19" 5-Spoke Wheels
Daytime Running Lights
Tire Press. Monitoring System
Power O/S, Heated Mirrors
Rear Backup Camera
Tilt/Telscpg Leather Strg Whl
Premium Cloth Int.
3rd Row Seat
Center Stow Seat & Center Stow Console
Cold Weather Pkg.
Towing Pkg W/ Hitch
Upgrd. Eng Immobilizer
Plus all the other goodies like, All air bags Remote keyless entry, Scotchguarding Upholstery, Etc.
Service and support top-notch
Retailed at $32,540.00 No tax
#2870 of 5207 Highlander - AWD w/Nav
Nov 22, 2007 (10:45 am)
Just purchased an 08 AWD Sport w/Nav and some other nice options. MSRP was $37,150. I bought for just under $33600, which is $500 over invoice. I asked, and they said yes as I knew I wanted to walk out of the dealership with a car. Purchased from San Diego Toyota.
The wife and kids love it so far!
#2871 of 5207 Re: good deal? [pushingtin]
Nov 22, 2007 (11:29 am)
You are funny guy.. I am pretty sure you do not complain when someone comes to your place and pays MSRP and more while others pay less.
I bought HL Sport ~2 months ago with very few options for the price I would pay for almost fully loaded GM/Ford SUV. The higher invoice already reflects quality while the quicker depriciation on GM/Fords etc, reflect the massive rebates those two companies were doing for the last 5 years.
#2872 of 5207 Re: good deal? [rzepa1]
Nov 22, 2007 (12:56 pm)
Thanks for the feedback, especially from the host.
I was simply trying to state that there are differences between price and cost, and that educated consumers need to think about the entire life of the vehicle as it relates to how long each will own that particular model.
I completely agree with trying to get the best price on whatever purchases that we make, but on most items that we shop for in general we pay the MSRP. The bad reputation of the automotive sales industry and any deception that may exist on behalf of the dealership is the result of the haggling consumer. Meaning that if a prospect walks into our dealership and I happen to "up" him or her, go over the entire vehicle, demo the vehicle, discuss price or financing, etc. and then get the whole "this is my first stop in my process of finding a new vehicle, thank you, may I have your card?" This customer then proceeds to another dealership, has all the ammo they need to negotiate a better price by stating that xxxx Toyota gave me xxxx price, and so this dealership in fear of losing a sale "drops their pants" and accepts the lowball offer.
In short, I did all the work, all the wining and dining, with nothing to show for it. And yes, I'm sure I have been the beneficiary of this "shopping" many times, but the deception I believe, starts with customer. And that my friends, has led to this ethical malpractice that we all have seen at some point.
#2873 of 5207 2008 highlander AWD base price
Nov 22, 2007 (5:12 pm)
I got a price of $28,058 for a 2008 highlander AWD base model plus options:
rear manual AC
carpet floor/cargo mat/3rd row mat
daytime running light
plus ~$300 doc fee
Is this a good deal? I am planning to pick it up tomorrow.
#2874 of 5207 Re: good deal? [pushingtin]
Nov 22, 2007 (6:41 pm)
Can't speak for everyone but in my close circle of friends, very few people pay MSRP on anything other than utility bills, i.e. things you cannot wait to go on sale and cannot negotiate. Most of those people have combined annual income ~75K-100K, so we are not talking bottom layer here.
All the commodity items from clothes to houses go on sale at some point. While it would be stupid to negotiate small price items such as toothpaste and soaps, items such as cars and houses make it worth while for most.
Finally, even the health care is going into this direction. My company is coaxing people to sign up for CDHP plan which in theory is consumer driven plan and gives you the flexibility of negotiating your medical pricing with doctors. This works kind of well if you looking for face lift and not so well when you have emergency type needs.
So the only time you'll get MSRP is if someone does not care for whatever reasons or someone who cannot wait.
Well, as haggling, people coming and going, it is part of the business. This is not Toyota specific issue, it is part of the sales whether you sell cars, siding,TVs or anything else.
#2875 of 5207 Re: good deal? [pushingtin]
Nov 22, 2007 (11:53 pm)
I buy all my big ticket items online. I do my own research online.
I do not want to talk to any car salesman while buying a car.
I want to go into a car Wal-Mart, pay cash, and pay invoice.
Even test drive is sometimes not needed based on widely
available reviews. Unfortunately, the screwed up dealership
system does not allow for such a model. Let people who want
full service may MSRP. Is there an invoice option for me who wants
#2876 of 5207 1% over invoice
Nov 23, 2007 (8:06 pm)
Here in Courtesy Toyota of Brandon Fla.The price they told me is 1% over invoice.Check there website see for yourself MSRP/Invoice .
#2877 of 5207 Re: 2008 highlander AWD base price [budalb]
Nov 23, 2007 (8:29 pm)
So it was $28,058 + $300 doc fee + tax?
That's a great deal. What is the name of the dealership and where did you get it?